[andy east sussex]

anyone taken the time to build one yea sky vacs great but the price hmm thinking of getting wet and dry vac then build from that as seen few videos

[Smudger]

Should be easy enough

Darran

[the king]

ide just buy a grippa vac £700 cant go rong realy and the moters are bullet proof good suction mine will lift a 1.5 kilo bag of dog food its not as power full as the sky vac industrel wich can lift 6 kilo but the grippa one is plenty power full anouth  for most jobs

[Smurf]

I think you are bonkers spending that much on just a vac and ali poles myself when you could buy a whole budget package for that including a decent power vac and 100%  carbon poles from the likes of guttercleaningsystems  £745 or £795 for a 40' kit 

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html

Mind you the mirror that comes with it is a crap idea at any height so best get a chepo gopro type cam instead 
I've also have never tried that package myself so you pays yer money and takes yer pick but looks ok to me for the dosh as would probably cost the same if not more to diy yourself one anyway by the time you have bought all the bits.

The only advantage to using a smaller type vac like the king has bought it has a smaller foot print thats all for fitting into a van and is a bit easier to move about being smaller and all.  The dissadvantage on using a smaller size vac you have to keep emptying more frequently on jobs so is not ideal when you do jobs like this.

 

[Smurf]

From the sales side of things and turning up and using a bigger vac looks much more the part than using a smaller one too.
As they say size does really matter missus honestly 

[a900]

Smurf, you had any smaller machines like the nilfisk multi30t? Wondering how you find it on suction compared. I brought the nilfisk not to long ago and find it awesome and for the price £109.

I do find the size fine for domestics. I like having a break from the poles to empty it.

Carbon poles from carbonfibertubes.co.uk
Silcon bends from autosiliconehoses.com
ends and adapters from go outdoors (fishing rod holder)

[Smurf]

Smurf, you had any smaller machines like the nilfisk multi30t? Wondering how you find it on suction compared. I brought the nilfisk not to long ago and find it awesome and for the price £109.

I do find the size fine for domestics. I like having a break from the poles to empty it.

Carbon poles from carbonfibertubes.co.uk
Silcon bends from autosiliconehoses.com
ends and adapters from go outdoors (fishing rod holder)

No I never owned one of those myself so can't say if any good or not but I've owned a few 3 motor vacs and even using omni 4200 watt vacs I've owned have struggled on some jobs so I can't really see a nilfisk multi30t 1400 watt single motor vac being much good to be honest.

[Smurf]

Looks like  I'm the 5th emergancy service as I'm just poping out to sort out some guttering overflowing.
The chap when phoned said "do you use that big vac thing." My reply was I will see what needs doing first then will choose the best method required as can use ladders too if need be.

[robert mitchell]

I think you are bonkers spending that much on just a vac and ali poles myself when you could buy a whole budget package for that including a decent power vac and 100%  carbon poles from the likes of guttercleaningsystems  £745 or £795 for a 40' kit 

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html

Mind you the mirror that comes with it is a crap idea at any height so best get a chepo gopro type cam instead 
I've also have never tried that package myself so you pays yer money and takes yer pick but looks ok to me for the dosh as would probably cost the same if not more to diy yourself one anyway by the time you have bought all the bits.

The only advantage to using a smaller type vac like the king has bought it has a smaller foot print thats all for fitting into a van and is a bit easier to move about being smaller and all.  The dissadvantage on using a smaller size vac you have to keep emptying more frequently on jobs so is not ideal when you do jobs like this.

Grippa dont sell ali poles

[the king]

I think you are bonkers spending that much on just a vac and ali poles myself when you could buy a whole budget package for that including a decent power vac and 100%  carbon poles from the likes of guttercleaningsystems  £745 or £795 for a 40' kit 

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html

Mind you the mirror that comes with it is a crap idea at any height so best get a chepo gopro type cam instead 
I've also have never tried that package myself so you pays yer money and takes yer pick but looks ok to me for the dosh as would probably cost the same if not more to diy yourself one anyway by the time you have bought all the bits.

The only advantage to using a smaller type vac like the king has bought it has a smaller foot print thats all for fitting into a van and is a bit easier to move about being smaller and all.  The dissadvantage on using a smaller size vac you have to keep emptying more frequently on jobs so is not ideal when you do jobs like this.

the grippa is plenty power anouth smurf 2400w with anty block side entery  persnly if i was you ide fit a side entery to that vac in the pic but each to there own also i got my airospace alli poles from lee martin there very lite and will last a life time unlike carbon but again each to there own

[the king]

my friend has the grippa and he has had it 6 years used it on huge commersel jobs never burnt a moter out yet they realy are bomb proof moters

[Nick Day]

Just to clarify the mirror situation.
Alex and I were involved in a business where we had a very intensive risk assessment course, so we knew from the outset that using a camera whilst you clean risk assesses as a two man job.
That is we give a mirror with every kit or pole set.
A camera is essential for surveying and giving before and after pictures.
If you employ, subcontract of Franchise you should keep this in mind.

[Smurf]

I personally think you don't really need a smaller side entry when you've got a 100 mm inlet on the drum. As you can see from the pics the crap still swirls around the drum just the same if you were using a side entry inlet.

[Smurf]

Just to clarify the mirror situation.
Alex and I were involved in a business where we had a very intensive risk assessment course, so we knew from the outset that using a camera whilst you clean risk assesses as a two man job.
That is we give a mirror with every kit or pole set.
A camera is essential for surveying and giving before and after pictures.
If you employ, subcontract of Franchise you should keep this in mind.

Regarding using a gopro type camera on a guttervac pole to be able to see what you are doing in real time by having a smart phone mounted on the bottom of the pole under my risk assesment is actualy a one man job not two as your hands need never to come of the pole so you are in control of the pole at all times.

With respect those mirrors and I've used one or two identical to the ones you indlude in your package are as usless as a choclate fireguard above ground floor height as the angle has to be set just right and you need to be stood just right on the ground too . Also on jobs 3 - 4 storey up you have defo no chance in seeing bugger all using a mirror on a guttervac pole.

[Nick Day]

Smurf,

You've got very strong opinions and you are welcome to them.
But your risk assessment abilities are pitiful and dangerous.

[Smurf]

Smurf,

You've got very strong opinions and you are welcome to them.
But your risk assessment abilities are pitiful and dangerous.

Don't have a go at me as I was the one that mentioned you guttervac kit as seems good value and just so happend to mention from experiance how crap that mirror idea was 

[Clever Forum Name]

Careful Alan you will be running out of forums soon 

[Smurf]

Careful Alan you will be running out of forums soon 

Then what will I do with my very strong opinions  

All I know from experience  what works best for me and if others don't agree or like what I say then that's ok with me too as I'm just trying to be honest.

[Clever Forum Name]

I think the mirror we had from somewhere lasted 1 or 2 houses before it broke.

[Smurf]

I think the mirror we had from somewhere lasted 1 or 2 houses before it broke.

I broke so many I now have a 100 years bad luck