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Steven Biggs

  • Posts: 1350
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2015, 11:06:14 am »
30 properties of which I do 28 . Mix of semis and detatched . I actually did go back to one downstairs lounge window and soaped it and bladed it . It was better but still small spots that wouldn't shift

SeanK

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2015, 11:13:41 am »
lol lots of sarky comments  ;D rince more and u will get perfect resalts
Nothing to do with sarcy comments mate its the truth...wfp is terrible on some windows in the sun and that's a fact...

No its not, water will clean the glass to perfection as long as there isn't any oily substances on it which fortunately for is us
is rarely the case.
What your seeing in full sun is all the imperfections on the glass or anything that has been deposited on it after we have
finished.
Yes on a hot summers day I would recommend you up the flow a little and spend a little more time as the water can dry off
before the dirt has been fully removed but there's no excuse for not getting all non oil based dirt of the glass.
So if it's imperfections on the glass how come it wipes of with a mop and blade ???

How I'm I supposed to know as you haven't told us what you think is on this glass or why the water wont remove it.

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2015, 11:15:07 am »
lol lots of sarky comments  ;D rince more and u will get perfect resalts
Nothing to do with sarcy comments mate its the truth...wfp is terrible on some windows in the sun and that's a fact...

No its not, water will clean the glass to perfection as long as there isn't any oily substances on it which fortunately for is us
is rarely the case.
What your seeing in full sun is all the imperfections on the glass or anything that has been deposited on it after we have
finished.
Yes on a hot summers day I would recommend you up the flow a little and spend a little more time as the water can dry off
before the dirt has been fully removed but there's no excuse for not getting all non oil based dirt of the glass.

We all know pureified cold water don't cut it on manky glass don't we chaps or you should by now surely ::)roll

You do talk rot at times Smurf, but then as with most of your posts they mean very little to all those able to achieve what
always seems to be beyond your capacity.

 The truth hurts don't it as cold purified water on its own sucks  ;D

SeanK

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2015, 11:18:43 am »
30 properties of which I do 28 . Mix of semis and detatched . I actually did go back to one downstairs lounge window and soaped it and bladed it . It was better but still small spots that wouldn't shift

Did you try using a scrapper to see if they would come off ? it sounds like it was just ingrained marks on the glass, wfp
seems to show these up more than traditional methods as you aren't left with the glossy film/coating.

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2015, 11:29:33 am »
lol lots of sarky comments  ;D rince more and u will get perfect resalts
Nothing to do with sarcy comments mate its the truth...wfp is terrible on some windows in the sun and that's a fact...

No its not, water will clean the glass to perfection as long as there isn't any oily substances on it which fortunately for is us
is rarely the case.
What your seeing in full sun is all the imperfections on the glass or anything that has been deposited on it after we have
finished.
Yes on a hot summers day I would recommend you up the flow a little and spend a little more time as the water can dry off
before the dirt has been fully removed but there's no excuse for not getting all non oil based dirt of the glass.

We all know pureified cold water don't cut it on manky glass don't we chaps or you should by now surely ::)roll

You do talk rot at times Smurf, but then as with most of your posts they mean very little to all those able to achieve what
always seems to be beyond your capacity.

Fixed that for you  :D

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2015, 11:32:46 am »
lol lots of sarky comments  ;D rince more and u will get perfect resalts
Nothing to do with sarcy comments mate its the truth...wfp is terrible on some windows in the sun and that's a fact...

No its not, water will clean the glass to perfection as long as there isn't any oily substances on it which fortunately for is us
is rarely the case.
What your seeing in full sun is all the imperfections on the glass or anything that has been deposited on it after we have
finished.
Yes on a hot summers day I would recommend you up the flow a little and spend a little more time as the water can dry off
before the dirt has been fully removed but there's no excuse for not getting all non oil based dirt of the glass.

We all know pureified cold water don't cut it on manky glass don't we chaps or you should by now surely ::)roll

You do talk rot at times Smurf, but then as with most of your posts they mean very little to all those able to achieve what
always seems to be beyond your capacity.

Fixed that for you  :D

 ;D ;D ;D

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2015, 11:35:45 am »
Merry Christmas Alan  ;D

Maybe new years resolution would be to sign back in at WCF ;)

Steven Biggs

  • Posts: 1350
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2015, 11:42:52 am »
Wouldn't use s scraper . Those marks were only on that window . The rest was down to wfp  cleaning . Very poor .never used an additive yet. But now thinking about trying one .

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2015, 11:50:42 am »
Merry Christmas Alan  ;D

Maybe new years resolution would be to sign back in at WCF ;)

Merry Christmas Damo  ;)

Regards to WCF my account has been locked down by admin and a banned message pops up so all I can do is login in and nothing else. 

mike1986

  • Posts: 432
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2015, 11:52:18 am »
I've noticed I always get really bad results when cleaning my own house windows, particularly when the low sun is shinning on them, so I've started trading the bottom windows and found them slightly better than water fed pole but still not perfect. Also they definitely get dirty again faster when cleaned by trad. I cleaned them week ago and looking at them now they are filthy!

I've come the the conclusion that it must be due to the age of the windows and the hammering of the weather on them over the years means they will never have a perfect finish.  ???

Smurf

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Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2015, 12:06:14 pm »
Wouldn't use s scraper . Those marks were only on that window . The rest was down to wfp  cleaning . Very poor .never used an additive yet. But now thinking about trying one .

On some glass you will come across using trad and even wfp method (plus additives) you will find will not remove staining/spotting so ends up being a glass restoration jobby. On double glazzed units just make sure its not on the inside surfaces of the glass or you might end up looking a right plonker  ;D

SeanK

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2015, 12:17:07 pm »
Wouldn't use s scraper . Those marks were only on that window . The rest was down to wfp  cleaning . Very poor .never used an additive yet. But now thinking about trying one .

Why wouldn't you use a scraper ? its a good way to check if its something is ingrained in the glass or not in other words
if a scraper wont remove it then its not your problem and as Smurf has said its a restoration job.
I would also show the customer this just to prove that its not down to bad workmanship.

Dave Willis

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2015, 02:10:55 pm »
After reading this post the sun came out - so I've cleaned my windows inside and out ................ the ones facing the sun are crap (as always). It's very gusty. I previously blamed the GG4 in my water but it ain't that this time. So either the wind deposits dirt or wfp under close scrutiny is basically rubbish. To be honest the second explanation is the one I always use. It's a bloody dreadful method of cleaning glass. Strange thing is - my customers haven't cottoned on yet  ;D

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2015, 02:36:15 pm »
After reading this post the sun came out - so I've cleaned my windows inside and out ................ the ones facing the sun are crap (as always). It's very gusty. I previously blamed the GG4 in my water but it ain't that this time. So either the wind deposits dirt or wfp under close scrutiny is basically rubbish. To be honest the second explanation is the one I always use. It's a bloody dreadful method of cleaning glass. Strange thing is - my customers haven't cottoned on yet  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

SB Cleaning

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Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2015, 03:10:18 pm »
After reading this post the sun came out - so I've cleaned my windows inside and out ................ the ones facing the sun are crap (as always). It's very gusty. I previously blamed the GG4 in my water but it ain't that this time. So either the wind deposits dirt or wfp under close scrutiny is basically rubbish. To be honest the second explanation is the one I always use. It's a bloody dreadful method of cleaning glass. Strange thing is - my customers haven't cottoned on yet  ;D
I agree Dave...I think a lot on here think we're joking about it ;D

Dave Willis

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2015, 03:17:38 pm »
Same window - different angles look at the spots top left corner horrendous! I washed them five times the other week and couldn't get them clean.  ;D

Jonny 87

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Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2015, 03:25:24 pm »
We think of window cleaning 100% of the time.

Customers think about it 0.5 % of the time.

We don't have to be perfect. Just decent. :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2015, 03:56:51 pm »
I find it embarrassing though, I close my blinds when the sun comes out!

SeanK

Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2015, 05:18:11 pm »
A bad workman always blames his tools you see it in all professions. ;D

tlwcs

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Re: Is it the brush or the low winter sun
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2015, 05:50:51 pm »
Press box Villa park WFP?