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Spruce

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2015, 08:37:08 am »

We're more interested in more time off, rather than more money.


Not what they want according to your earlier post
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2015, 08:42:53 am »

We're more interested in more time off, rather than more money.


Not what they want according to your earlier post

Then our wants aren't the same and to be honest, I'm not bothered about what they want; but I infer, from the fact that the boss says he prefers the guys with families (as opposed to the single blokes who just do the minimum) that there's some scope for deciding how much and how long you wish to work for.

I mean I didn't want to look like a slacker, so I didn't ask those questions outright. ;D

My plan would be to get my feet under the table, make a good impression, and then start slacking.  That attitude served me well in my first 17 years of employment, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue to work.

Walter Mitty

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2015, 08:45:22 am »
Spreading the risks sounds better to me with you continuing with the window cleaning and your wife painting pylons.
The main caveat might be whether or not time apart would be stressful for your marriage; sometimes time apart can enhance a marriage - it depends on the people involved.

Rich Wilts

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2015, 08:55:09 am »
That attitude served me well in my first 17 years of employment, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue to work.


Being part of a team of guys that have done this job for a long time that attitude wont work.

I would've thought the thing about that job is how feckin' boring it would be. And listening to the same old twaddle by the same old twots day in day out that you couldnt get away from.

What happens when you want to take leak, lets hope your missus is hanging upside down when Harry Half-Inch flops his flaccid member out for some light urinary relief.

CSRFT.

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2015, 09:11:54 am »
Being part of a team of guys that have done this job for a long time that attitude wont work.

Yes it will, mate.  I'm not talking about slacking while on the job.  You do know I worked in teams for a lot of years in the army, don't you?  If you've anymore eggs you'd like me to suck, just pass them my way.

I would've thought the thing about that job is how feckin' boring it would be. And listening to the same old twaddle by the same old twots day in day out that you couldnt get away from.

I'm sure there's some downsides to most jobs.   I've customers who torture the life out of me like that too.

What happens when you want to take leak, lets hope your missus is hanging upside down when Harry Half-Inch flops his flaccid member out for some light urinary relief.

She's not a wallflower, mate.  Before Harry gets it back in his pants she'll probably be on it, like a tramp on chips.  It's the others you need to pray for; not her.  She's Welsh. 

Rich Wilts

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2015, 09:19:19 am »
CSRFT.

Just saying like. Mr Uppity.

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2015, 09:22:51 am »
CSRFT. ;D

You're dying for me to ask what this is; it's the second time you've put it up, but I know the answer won't be funny because you're not usually funny, especially when you're trying hard.

Go on then *sigh* what is it!

Added:  You've modded your post; I knew it wouldn't be funny.  ;D

Rich Wilts

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2015, 09:24:50 am »
Yes it will, mate.  I'm not talking about slacking while on the job.  You do know I worked in teams for a lot of years in the army, don't you?  If you've anymore eggs you'd like me to suck, just pass them my way.


You a team player? Don't make me laugh.  ;D ;D ;D

Trying to be the centre of attention isn't 'team playing' - that's removing yourself from the team.


Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2015, 09:40:59 am »
Yes it will, mate.  I'm not talking about slacking while on the job.  You do know I worked in teams for a lot of years in the army, don't you?  If you've anymore eggs you'd like me to suck, just pass them my way.


You a team player? Don't make me laugh.  ;D ;D ;D

Trying to be the centre of attention isn't 'team playing' - that's removing yourself from the team.

I like a nice bite. 

CSRFT ;D ;)

Smurf

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2015, 10:23:58 am »
Not the sort of job I would want to be honest no matter how well paid it was...fook that ??? 
http://www.fstoppress.com/articles/pylon-painting/fsp_small_pylon_painting_0028/

The higher you go, the safer you are.  You'll find that window cleaners - using ladders - have a far higher risk of injury or death.

You're attached at all times to safety cables.

It's only your perception that it's dangerous; it's not really; I've checked it out.

Abseiling down stuff is not the issue but working on live 400.000 volt pylons is to me.
I like one of the comments from a pylon painter "you have to be careful" ...no sh*t  Sherlock  ;D

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2015, 10:33:42 am »
Abseiling down stuff is not the issue but working on live 400.000 volt pylons is to me.
I like one of the comments from a pylon painter "you have to be careful" ...no sh*t  Sherlock  ;D

I'm pretty sure there's no abseiling (which would be fine with me; I love that kind of stuff), but they switch the leccy off if the arms are to be done.

Seriously, there'll be more accidents and deaths from falls at height with window cleaners than there is for painting pylons.  The higher you go, the more safety precautions are taken.

Smurf

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2015, 10:56:40 am »
Abseiling down stuff is not the issue but working on live 400.000 volt pylons is to me.
I like one of the comments from a pylon painter "you have to be careful" ...no sh*t  Sherlock  ;D

I'm pretty sure there's no abseiling (which would be fine with me; I love that kind of stuff), but they switch the leccy off if the arms are to be done.

Seriously, there'll be more accidents and deaths from falls at height with window cleaners than there is for painting pylons.  The higher you go, the more safety precautions are taken.

The play down the danger of electrocution bit or no one in their right mind would do it and yes there seems to abseiling involved too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24374923

Smurf

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2015, 11:51:14 am »
Tosh, I've found this vid that maybe of interest as gives a great insite of what the job is all about including the lads views of the job.
Documentary film which follows a team of four pylon painters who remain undeterred by the hazards of their profession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIf6163H4c

Still I'm not sure why they don't seem to be clipped on the times they are filmed working on the pylons? 
Maybe it's just for the cameras "macho thing" or the worrying thing they don't use fall arests at all as slows them down to much. ???

*Hector*

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2015, 02:50:17 pm »
Tosh.....
how about you sell your boring stuff to Squeeky, or some one else if he wont bite....
Send Helen off to do the job on her own at first, and then when she is home, you will be able to take time off for a few days, and still be on top of the winders......
If it all works out for her.... then get rid of the rest of the round (Franky must need some work by now..  ;D ) and then Robert is a relative..
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2015, 04:40:02 pm »
Abseiling down stuff is not the issue but working on live 400.000 volt pylons is to me.
I like one of the comments from a pylon painter "you have to be careful" ...no sh*t  Sherlock  ;D

I'm pretty sure there's no abseiling (which would be fine with me; I love that kind of stuff), but they switch the leccy off if the arms are to be done.

Seriously, there'll be more accidents and deaths from falls at height with window cleaners than there is for painting pylons.  The higher you go, the more safety precautions are taken.

The play down the danger of electrocution bit or no one in their right mind would do it and yes there seems to abseiling involved too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24374923

Dont discourage him then!!

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2015, 04:45:46 pm »
Tosh, I've found this vid that maybe of interest as gives a great insite of what the job is all about including the lads views of the job.
Documentary film which follows a team of four pylon painters who remain undeterred by the hazards of their profession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIf6163H4c

Still I'm not sure why they don't seem to be clipped on the times they are filmed working on the pylons? 
Maybe it's just for the cameras "macho thing" or the worrying thing they don't use fall arests at all as slows them down to much. ???

That was really interesting, thanks.  As for the other clip, that actual pylon (according to Mr Gold) is one of the two largest ones in the UK, and it's actually situated about 1.5 miles from where I live.  The army barracks they mentioned was my last posting.

I'm not worried about safety; I'm sure - given today's emphasis on it - it'll be fine.  I can only find one pylon death (while working; there's a few with people just being daft), but if I google window cleaning deaths, there's loads of 'em.

Looks like tough work though.

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2015, 04:52:45 pm »
Send Helen off to do the job on her own at first, and then when she is home, you will be able to take time off for a few days, and still be on top of the winders......

Yes, it seems like - if it pans out - this'll be what we'll do.  She'll start first (it's her they want anyway), though she says she's not going to do the windows during her time off AND train for a 100m ultra marathon at the same time.  But at least it'll give us an idea the time-involvement for me too.  We still have an elderly dog who doesn't seem keen on karking it yet; but once he goes, then we've basically got no ties (Wor Little Un being at uni) and working away isn't a problem.

However, all this could be 'pie in the sky'.  She might hate it!  Or something else.  The boss said to speak to him in the New Year about it when we next come to clean their windows; he did say there was a lot of work to be done next year though and he seemed really keen on having a female as part of their pylon painting work force.

I hope it pans out for her; I'd love to say Wor Lass is a Pylon Painter from PontyPool.

Dave Willis

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2015, 05:25:00 pm »
I'd rather watch paint dry.

rz

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Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2015, 06:25:42 pm »
You have my number when your ready to sell.

Tom White

Re: Keeping your round while doing another job...
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2015, 06:46:18 pm »
You have my number when your ready to sell.

 ;D

Cheers Rog.