[benny donnelly]

I bought a second hand system and just had a go at using it and no power seems to be getting to the controller or pump etc, the battery has 12.5v in it but the power dosent seem to be going anywhere! i cant understand why its not working, there is no on/off button on the controller so it should be straight on when battery hooked up, anyone any ideas as im lost lol

[NWH]

If you have a fuse that you've checked and it's fine I would check all the wiring and I mean all of it,you only need it to be split somewhere along the line and it'll cause you problems.

[benny donnelly]

If you have a fuse that you've checked and it's fine I would check all the wiring and I mean all of it,you only need it to be split somewhere along the line and it'll cause you problems.

There is an inline fuse and i inspected it and it looked fine but ill go get one and change it anyway to defo rule it out and ill inspect the wiring....its a twin controller pump set up but i just want to run it as one so have i much messing to do to the wiring for that? cheers

[Smurf]

Might be wise to get an auto sparky to take a look at it as you may have fried the controllers if it was wired up wrong and you connected the leisure battery to it.

Also when you say you bought it secondhand did you actualy see it working?

[NWH]

If you have a fuse that you've checked and it's fine I would check all the wiring and I mean all of it,you only need it to be split somewhere along the line and it'll cause you problems.

[ascjim]

Depends what controller it is. Try holding some buttons.

[benny donnelly]

Ok so I have got some power going now after charging the battery more, I'm getting power straight to the pump but none to the controller, it's a cleaning warehouse system controller with no on off and pushing the buttons does nothing on it, wiring all looks good and I don't know why it's powering the pump and not the controller

[Dave Willis]

Some controllers won't work if the voltage isn't high enough try a different/fully charged battery.

[benny donnelly]

I connected it too the van battery and still no joy, proper. Scratching my head with this one

I'll take a pic of it tomorrow and show what's going on

[NWH]

If you wire the pump straight to the battery it will tell you if it's the controller at fault which is what it sounds like,I know someone who doesn't use a controller he just wires  straight to the battery although that means his pump is flat out all the time.

[dave f]

get a multi  meter there only a few quid for basic one . if there are  any  spade connectors check they have been crimped correctly  or any wires that may of been frayed or bashed about

[Spruce]

Might be wise to get an auto sparky to take a look at it as you may have fried the controllers if it was wired up wrong and you connected the leisure battery to it.

Also when you say you bought it secondhand did you actualy see it working?

He still hasn't answered your question Smurf. 

[Don Kee]

I might be wrong but most controllers have an inbuilt fuse, the inline fuse in one you put in as an extra precaution

If you've/someones blown the inbuilt fuse, you may as well say cheerio controller...

As smurf & spruce have asked, did you see it working?

[Ian Sheppard]

The TCW controllers will operate as long as you have 10.5V or above with the V11 and  11V with the V9 versions. The controller should have a white label with a serial number and version number on it. This will tell me what it is and its age. So provided you have at least 11V and it would appear you have. Plus the fact the pump runs when connected direct would suggest the controller is the source of the issue. To power up the controller press and hold either the up Or down arrow the display should then come up.

As Both Spruce and Smurf comments did you see the controller working when you bought it?

If the display is blank and will not power up, It would suggest that a short has occurred and damaged he controller. A simple test would be to remove the faceplate and see if it smell of burning.  Also have a look for black burn marks and or Brown staining ( Brown staining is a sign of water damage)

One possibility is that the controller has been miss wired on connection to a battery. DC devices are all polarity sensitive miss connecting the controller will short it out. We do fit a device to protect the processor in this event.  Depending on age and what damage has occurred the unit may be repairable.

[Spruce]

He must have a multimeter as he has 12.5v at the battery; or has benny got that from the Spring controller display? Now if he has got that from the Spring controller display then this means that he has power at the controller.

[Ian Sheppard]

He must have a multimeter as he has 12.5v at the battery; or has benny got that from the Spring controller display? Now if he has got that from the Spring controller display then this means that he has power at the controller.

Well spotted Spruce the original post quotes 12.5V at the battery. Benny have you a user guide for the controller? If you can confirm which version it Is I can mail you a guide. Also if the display is on what information or messages are displayed please.

[Smurf]

I'm confused 

Either the controllers display lights up when you turn them on or they don't . Still no power should be going straight to either pump with the controllers properly fitted and working how they should surely?

[Matt.]

I have been here we're he is and I reckon it's the wiring somewere

I have had days were I was scratch in my head suton silly I went along disconnecting each connection and reconnecting until u hear that pump kick in
I bought a few pumps an controllers a while back  but swapped back to shurflo and now don't both with controllers just run pump from battery

People say ur running it flat out but in theory ur not coz the id of the hose reduces the amount if water through so it's flowing at say 70-80% not fill throttle and even at full steam ahead shurflo pumps don't just brake down ...... Propa quality they are not like some other suppliers

[Ian Sheppard]

To a point yes the hose and jets do restrict flow in the line. However the pump is working at a 100% and drawing its maximum current. With the pump running this hard a lot of back pressure is created so the pump can be working against its self. Using a controller means that the pump only produces the the flow needed. Plus the current draw is reduced. In all a system is more efficient with a controller.

[Spruce]

He says its a twin controller setup.  they haven't been out on the market all that long.

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/pump-controllers/vehicle-pump-controllers/digital-liquid-logic-trade-dual-pump-controller.html

Could he have a negative wire from one controller and the negative wire from the other - even a positive from each side would also cause the same none function.

I would imagine the new Spring controllers have colour coded wiring to identify which wiring goes with which contoller.