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Dave Willis

"Hot" water makes me laugh!
« on: November 19, 2015, 08:01:01 am »
Guys on here with "hot" water systems pumping water out at 25 degrees at the bush head, ha ha ha.
That's the temperature of the local swimming pool! Hot my arse.
By the time it's run down the pane it's probably half that - pointless really when the air temps are 15 like they have been this week.

dazmond

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 08:29:57 am »
Guys on here with "hot" water systems pumping water out at 25 degrees at the bush head, ha ha ha.
That's the temperature of the local swimming pool! Hot my arse.
By the time it's run down the pane it's probably half that - pointless really when the air temps are 15 like they have been this week.

ive had my heater on at around 40 degrees last few days.it does help with birdmuck,snail trails and all the black grit on frames thats been whipped up with these storms.

ill turn in down on sat though as its forecast a frosty cold day
price higher/work harder!

Rich Wilts

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 09:35:38 am »
lol Damond, you do come up with some funny stuff sometimes to justify yourself.


Black grit all over the frames from these storms  ;D ;D ;D  What you had up there 5* hotel hurricane?




lee_dewing

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 11:15:03 am »
Hi Daz.

Not trying to be sarcastic.

Thought you tried hot water the other year then decided waste of time and went back to cold?

Your hot water temperature mustn't go so many degrees above air temp or its cracking up time on the glass😅
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

NWH

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 01:45:09 pm »
Mine is a webasto the same as the ionic thermopure unit,the water at the brush is between 45-60 degrees. If it's not steaming on the glass you have something wrong with the heater,I'd like a gas heater for signage and roofs cos they produce hotter water. For anyone who says hot water it not worth the bother has not used a decent hot setup IMO,some PVC Windows start to go green even after 2 months where I clean them cold water simply just wouldn't be up to the job on the majority of my work.

Pete Thompson

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 02:15:55 pm »
If its freezing temperature outside (or close to it) I'll take 25 degrees anytime!

Even luke-warm water is heaven to deal with compared to 6 degree water when its so cold. Nicer for your hands, easier hose management etc.

dazmond

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 03:40:06 pm »
lol Damond, you do come up with some funny stuff sometimes to justify yourself.


Black grit all over the frames from these storms  ;D ;D ;D  What you had up there 5* hotel hurricane?

the black grit is from torrential rain splattering in the gutters then splashing onto glass and frames esp on building extensions/porches for example.

some of my 4 weekly customers glass and frames  were awful today. ;)
price higher/work harder!

Dave Willis

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 03:41:47 pm »
Good job you didn't clean during the storm.

dazmond

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 03:43:14 pm »
Hi Daz.

Not trying to be sarcastic.

Thought you tried hot water the other year then decided waste of time and went back to cold?

Your hot water temperature mustn't go so many degrees above air temp or its cracking up time on the glass😅

ive changed my mind lee  since alex brought out microbore hose that can be used with hot water. :)
price higher/work harder!

SeanK

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2015, 04:02:41 pm »
Good job you didn't clean during the storm.

  ;D

lee_dewing

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2015, 05:35:27 pm »
Quote
ive changed my mind lee  since alex brought out microbore hose that can be used with hot water. :)

Fair play, I won't say you go hot and cold :D

Better ti change your mind than not be able to make your mind up like me :-[
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

windowswashed

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 09:31:32 pm »
Hot and cold....used both, had two sealed units shatter to pieces in the past   water was at least 60 degrees, only go as high as 40 degrees when I use it now. Big difference, easier, quicker, preferred choice anyday!
Q. ask yourself when your cleaning the dishes, wine glasses and pots and pans after a sunday roast would you find cold or hot water shifts or loosens the stubborn dirt easiest. If you filled two coffee or tea stained mugs, one with cold water and one with hot, didn't scrub them with a cloth or dish brush but just gave them a swill around after a minute and emptied the water you would discover the mug that had hot water in would have removed most if not all of the drink stain at the bottom better than the one filled with cold water......try it for yourself.

SeanK

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2015, 09:53:40 pm »
Hot and cold....used both, had two sealed units shatter to pieces in the past   water was at least 60 degrees, only go as high as 40 degrees when I use it now. Big difference, easier, quicker, preferred choice anyday!
Q. ask yourself when your cleaning the dishes, wine glasses and pots and pans after a sunday roast would you find cold or hot water shifts or loosens the stubborn dirt easiest. If you filled two coffee or tea stained mugs, one with cold water and one with hot, didn't scrub them with a cloth or dish brush but just gave them a swill around after a minute and emptied the water you would discover the mug that had hot water in would have removed most if not all of the drink stain at the bottom better than the one filled with cold water......try it for yourself.

Who cares, the question is how quick are you cleaning at present and how quicker would this investment make me so
unless your cleaning restaurant windows then your not going to get what's on dishes on household windows.
Talk about trying to convince yourself that your not wasting your own money.


NWH

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2015, 10:35:11 pm »
That last comment was said by someone who has never used hot water for any real length of time. If I want to use cold I just have to hold down 2 buttons for 2 seconds to turn it off but I never do because hot is king,I would do the minimum to get the job done but with hot water I just have so much more confidence when working.

Plankton

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2015, 11:07:34 pm »
Question, would you eat your dinner off a window. I know its all the rage to be eating off wooden boards and slate but I doubt eating your Sunday roast off the outside of your dinning room window is going to catch on!
I clean my car with cold soapy water and rinse with cold water, I clean my windows with pure water and my dishwasher is supposed to clean the dishes at 40/50/60 degrees.
Hot/warm water saved me a few seconds on windows with snail trails but I couldn't justify using it other than filling the tank with hot to prevent freezing.

windowswashed

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2015, 11:26:10 pm »
There are more advantages to using hot other than simply speeding up jobs and preventing everything freezing up but I can't be bothered and don't feel the need to explain myself or convince others to go hot......stay cold, work harder,  do a lot of frost protection thingies when the temperature is freezing overnight and earn less, know which I prefer and it ain't simply because of cost. Five quid a day on diesel is nothing for using hot advantages, no comparison.

SeanK

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2015, 11:37:03 pm »
That last comment was said by someone who has never used hot water for any real length of time. If I want to use cold I just have to hold down 2 buttons for 2 seconds to turn it off but I never do because hot is king,I would do the minimum to get the job done but with hot water I just have so much more confidence when working.

You have hit the nail on the head, I have the same confidence using cold as you have using hot as I keep saying its confidence
that holds people back in this game not the ability of cold pure water to do the job.

Plankton

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2015, 11:48:33 pm »
That last comment was said by someone who has never used hot water for any real length of time. If I want to use cold I just have to hold down 2 buttons for 2 seconds to turn it off but I never do because hot is king,I would do the minimum to get the job done but with hot water I just have so much more confidence when working.

You have hit the nail on the head, I have the same confidence using cold as you have using hot as I keep saying its confidence
that holds people back in this game not the ability of cold pure water to do the job.
Don't mention lack of confidence or the lassy will be back on talking poope.

Smurf

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Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2015, 12:04:56 am »
It's not a confidence thing at all if you have used both you can make your own mind up if it's worth using hot or not.
If like me you will find out hot defo cleans better than cold any day of the year even if used on regular cleans.

SeanK

Re: "Hot" water makes me laugh!
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2015, 08:01:40 am »
It's not a confidence thing at all if you have used both you can make your own mind up if it's worth using hot or not.
If like me you will find out hot defo cleans better than cold any day of the year even if used on regular cleans.

Better at cleaning what ? until you have compared yourself to what other guys are achieving then your just talking rot,  I haven't
tried hot because I am achieving the results I need without it.
Its like coming on here and trying to convince somebody who can clean a property in 10mins that if they where using hot
they could clean it in 10mins.