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Positivity

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2015, 11:13:51 am »
yeh iv been having a nightmare for a while now with the pole hose, thats one of the reasons im converting  all my gardiner poles to tubeless via exceed

cant wait


tony
Can't see what this "tubeless" thing is all about. As far as I can see there is still a pole hose that goes up the pole. Wouldn't it be great if there was a pole with every section sealed watertight so you could do away with pole hose all together! Just pump water in the bottom and it comes out of the top.

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2015, 04:23:56 pm »
There was.

steven jones

Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 03:35:49 pm »
yeh iv been having a nightmare for a while now with the pole hose, thats one of the reasons im converting  all my gardiner poles to tubeless via exceed

cant wait


tony
Can't see what this "tubeless" thing is all about. As far as I can see there is still a pole hose that goes up the pole. Wouldn't it be great if there was a pole with every section sealed watertight so you could do away with pole hose all together! Just pump water in the bottom and it comes out of the top.
I Actually made a pole like that before I made the ex-ceed tubeless pole.
There was two problems:
1) When collapsing  the WFP it was like a syringe effect, blasting water.
2) And it weighed a ton to work with.

Dave66

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2015, 08:56:30 pm »
Alex is the standard hose pipe 6mm internal diameter ?

Thanks
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2015, 09:04:41 pm »
Alex is the standard hose pipe 6mm internal diameter ?

Thanks

The Internal Diameter on all 3 of our pole hose types (PVC, PU and new Reinforced PVC) is 5mm  :)

Dave66

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2015, 09:43:17 pm »
Thanks I'll get some ordered for my very old but trusty slx18  ;)

Ps is the 8mm OD hose the one ?
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2015, 08:08:09 pm »
Thanks I'll get some ordered for my very old but trusty slx18  ;)

Ps is the 8mm OD hose the one ?

That's the one  :)

Micky Barber

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2015, 09:29:17 am »
It is always annoying when pole hose does not cooperate. As has been said, all hose will at times tangle and loop, but there are methods/techniques that can reduce this happening - good hose management and correct care can make a large difference to how pole hose affects your working day.

Whilst getting a pole hose that suits everyone is not going to be possible, the standard PVC pole hose that we sell does generally suit a large number of our clients. We sell about 250,000m of this pole hose a year and a large number of our clients have no issue with it - I realise that this statement does not help those that do have an issue with it. I was out window cleaning myself yesterday and had two new poles I was trying out, each was fitted with a brand new length of this hose, whilst it did have some coil memory from storage, as it was new, this did start to drop out through the day - if it had constantly been tangling then I would also have got frustrated.

The standard pole hose we supply is lightweight, low memory and flexible - however with age, temperature change and not being stored correctly it can start to get coil memory and become less cooperative in the day. So what can be done to get the best from this hose? (not that it will still suit everyone)

1. Store the pole hose in a way that prevents coil memory. The best way to store the hose is to loosely hand coil it after each job. To do this most effectively disconnect the pole hose from the hose reel hose and from the base of the pole (not from the connector end) loosely coil the hose allowing any loops or twists to drop out. This leaves the hose in a good state for next use and helps prevent adding loops/kinks each time the pole is put away.

2. Do not leave the pole hose connected to the reel hose and wind back up on the the hose reel at the end of each job. This does not allow any loops/twists picked up during work to drop out. Within a very short period of time the hose will become so twisted that it would be very difficult to work with.

3. If the hose is getting coil memory and not behaving (such as when brand new and fresh off the coil) then dropping the whole coil into a bucket of near boiling water (as NWH has mentioned) for a few seconds and then loosely and carefully coiling up before laying flat ready for next use will make a big difference.

4. If the hose is getting old and hardening up then the above hot water method will usually work well, however if it doesn't then it make be time to replace the hose with new PVC hose.

5. Correct storing of pole hose, either laying flat or hanging from a hook will also help. Then, when connecting back up to the hose reel ensure that the connector end has not been pulled through the centre of the hose loop but is on the top ready for connection - this may seem an obvious point, but getting this right can prevent a lot of twists, loops and actual knots building up.

I hope that the above tips will help somewhat with those having issues with pole hose (ours or any other brands).

We do have two other types of pole hose in development for those that like the alternatives, but neither will be replacing the standard PVC hose option, they will just be extra upgrade options for those that prefer something different.
It's nothing to do with how people use it it's rubbish.

Micky Barber

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2015, 09:36:21 am »

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2015, 10:03:05 am »
It's nothing to do with how people use it it's rubbish.

It is not rubbish - that is just your opinion based on your personal preference. Thousands of our clients use it and like how it works for them, including myself.

This is good.http://surecleansystems.com/shop/hosing/20m-yellow-pole-hose-5mm/

If you prefer using this type of hose then we also supply a reinforced pole hose which may better suit your preferences - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/hoses/reinforced-flexible-pole-hose-5mm-id-9mm-od-1549.html

NWH

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2015, 12:01:07 pm »
I also agree it keeps it shape and lasts years on one pole if you look after it you coil it up right after each job it soon begins automatically want to do it almost on its own. Even cheap hose will be fine,if you use hot water you will never have any problem with pole hose,a thick rose bush will pierce it though I found out of everything to pierce it this is the daddy pinched on pavers pulled round brick walls,big thorns on a rose bush will kill it.

Positivity

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Re: Gardiner Pole Hose
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2015, 02:19:54 pm »
"It's nothing to do with how people use it it's rubbish."
You could always invent some yourself instead of slagging it off!