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Plankton

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Gutter vac end attachments
« on: November 13, 2015, 09:22:46 pm »
Been using alloy gutter vac nozzles which came with alloy poles. I then bought a couple of carbon poles with the rubber necks and looking for better end tools for tight gutters and not far off tight gutters!
I was looking at the long crevice tool from polarbrite.

Any pointers?

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 01:37:37 pm »
Hi. Alan.

Not got around to getting a gutter vac.

But I think these people make the best tools that fit onto tubes.

They actually are a gutter clearing company that makes gutter clearing equipment so should know what works best.

They also advocate that it's not all down to the vac suction.

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/home.html

Good luck.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Smudger

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 02:05:41 pm »
Hi. Alan.



They actually are a gutter clearing company that makes gutter clearing equipment so should know what works best.
 really 🤔

They also advocate that it's not all down to the vac suction.
is that because they sell low end, low power vac's?
Good luck.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 02:09:31 pm »
What would you recommend then Darran?
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 02:21:42 pm »
Post is for tools I thought they look pretty good.
Especially adjustable angle on neck, good for over conservatories.

Very confusing issue on here gutter vacs, many say that you will still need to go up ladders to unblock downpipes.

That to me defeats the object of spending money on a gutter vac.

Your remark Darran about low spec equipment maybe correct.
Realise you have experience in other avenues power washing and gutter vacs.

Just thinking that could be said of my wfp equipment compared to say an ionics setup.

Read many posts on here and I think that 1800watt wet and dry vac would be good enough for most domestics.

Just my opinion.
Lee.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Smudger

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 02:23:38 pm »
I'm a little out of date on the latest generation of vac's,  so can give a definitive answer but the sky vac's are extremely well built,  have power and quality/ equipment accessories - then the omnivac vac 4200 watt will clear just about everything no faffing with weed hooks etc...

Yes they are cheap, and look good value, but they are cheap for a very good reason...

The tools are ok,  but the crevis tool is plastic, if the bend was solid you wouldn't need the weed hook as you'd have the strength to dig into the moss and grass.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smudger

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 02:32:43 pm »
Why do think some still have to go up ladders ?

Way back, there were several heated debates on this, loads still had to go up and clear downpipes - I never did and as far as I know the othe omnivac users didn't either - but as the want of this forum, you are disbelieved or shouted down because the only experience they had was using some Chinese copy vac or underpowered 1800 watt machine.

I don't think the correlation between ionics system and your system is valid, the key working parts to your system is the pole, gardiners produce quality wfp poles equal to ionics - compare your carbon gardiners pole to a Brodex Ali pole with vikan brush...

They both do a job, one far better than the other.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Plankton

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2015, 03:13:09 pm »
As I'm reading the above some hard faced guy is walking past having a right good look at my carbon vac poles which are on top of my ladders.
Why have I got ladders and vac poles? 1- I have a low powered vac (Karcher 48/1) 2- I tend to come across blocked down pipe elbows which normally need taken apart.
I'm not for jumping into buying expensive things and will p around with crap and learn the hard way! Crap gennys crap vac's crap poles. My alloy poles were from GCS and the fittings are crap the neck is terrible and clogs up as the diameter is reduced.

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2015, 04:55:40 pm »
There are still times a guttervac would useless all the same regardless of the power of the vac.
For instance I've seen and removed by hand established large trees and shrubs growing out of some guttering and downspouts with root balls the lenth of the guttering too ;D









lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2015, 07:07:28 pm »
Darran  I see your point there.

I suppose I was blinded by price of the gutter cleaning systems and after Alan's post saying he has gcs equipment and is unimpressed I'll put that idea to bed.

I've looked on sky vac and no prices but I'm guessing £1500-£2000 (hate their not being a price list)
come across this on window cleaning warehouse which is interesting.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SVAT7.html

Saw the atom on sky vac video thought it looked good.

As a small van user and a small wallet holder 😃
Thought this might be an option for me and surely a better option than what I was considering.

Darren as for camera inspection kit would you agree that this can be done on a budget as I think it can, copy cat go pro camera, which some on here use connected to slx pole.

Smurf I'm sure there would be some jobs I couldn't do with the setup I'm looking at but if I can do most I'd settle for that.

Can't think of any of my customers with trees growing out of their gutters. 😃

Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2015, 09:41:35 pm »
Best carry a good set of ladder then as sure as eggs is eggs you will need them too as even a skyvac industral has limitations on what it can do..

Plankton

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2015, 01:47:48 am »
http://www.candorservices.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=2_189_21_97&product_id=993
This is the cheapest 51mm crevice tool I've came across.
Not sure how narrow it is though.

Plankton

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2015, 01:54:26 am »
For the gutter cam I'm using a Sony action cam that connects to my phone for the live stream. The WiFi connection can be temperamental though and the picture can freeze as a result.

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2015, 11:56:41 am »
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SJ4000-Video-Action-WI-FI-Camera-similer-Go-Pro-SJ-Cam-1080P-Full-HD-Waterproof-/undefined

These are the cameras I was looking at.
They have a review on youtube looked good.

As for crevice tool wouldn't know myself where to look ebay or see if skyvac grippatank. Polabrite, purefreedom, omnipole.

Or see if attachment on family hoover fits 😊

Thanks for heads up on guttercleaningsystems.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

SB Cleaning

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2015, 12:56:04 pm »
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SJ4000-Video-Action-WI-FI-Camera-similer-Go-Pro-SJ-Cam-1080P-Full-HD-Waterproof-/undefined

These are the cameras I was looking at.
They have a review on youtube looked good.

As for crevice tool wouldn't know myself where to look ebay or see if skyvac grippatank. Polabrite, purefreedom, omnipole.

Or see if attachment on family hoover fits 😊

Thanks for heads up on guttercleaningsystems.
I've got one of those cams..They do the job well :)

Smudger

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2015, 12:58:02 pm »
Lee - that's what I'd go for - they are supposed to be as good as GoPro, but let's face it as long as you get a clear picture of a gutter small amount of quality loss in the pixels is hardly a Ridley Scott issue.

Smurf - yes mate, there will always be a exceptional job where you can get it done - that's life, but when your having to use ladders as a regular option then you've got the wrong equipment of technique.

Crevis tool - get a standard round end two pieces of wood and place it in a vice and close it - I crevis tool as thin as you require ( I have about 3 - slightly flat, thin, and Kate moss thin )

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Plankton

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2015, 02:11:45 pm »
I've got a few alloy poles there and never even thought about making the crevice tools my self!
What are you using for the solid elbow.

I had intended selling the alloy poles on gumtree along with the Kirchner at some point.


lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2015, 02:37:30 pm »
Thanks SB, Darran.
Re: Camera.😊
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Nick Day

Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2015, 08:49:09 am »
Hello,

 I think that there needs to be a bit of clarification on this issue because there's been some interesting comments. Just to be clear Darran (Smudger) has never owned any kits manufactured by Gutter Cleaning Systems, we've never seen him, spoke to him or had any dealings whatsoever with him. For some reason from the very outset when we were first on this forum he has had some kind of issue with us, what that is I have no idea.

Our systems have been constructed from cleaning thousands of metres of gutters trialling many different machines from different manufacturers over a period ranging in power from 1400 watts up to 4200 watts. We have put together kits which offer the best performance and value. The reason we settled on the Viper is because they are excellent machines with excellent suction and also the fact they are a wholly owned division of Nilfisk. Our kits are in daily use throughout the UK, Ireland, USA, Belgium, Canada and Australia to name a few.

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vac end attachments
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2015, 09:40:44 am »
Nick I'm a small van user, ford escort.

I was looking at your kits.

I do worry 1400watt would not be enough power.
I admit I know nothing about gutter vacs.

Alan has your equipment and get the impression he is not entirely happy.
Just saying what I have read.

Out of interest what are the measurements of your 3000 watt vac the one with the 3 independent motors?
As stated by another window on here it can look like over kill clearing gutters on a modest house using something the size of R2D2.

On top of that asking to plug into customers electric might raise a few eyebrows.
I do not want to be buying a generator also.

I realise you have alot of experience clearing gutters.
I have no interest in going up a ladder to clear what a gutter vac can't cope with, so maybe a guttervac is not for me.

Maybe you could tell us your experience as many on here argue that gutter vacs are a waste of money.

Thanks Nick.
Lee.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle