[8weekly]

How much  is he charging for his course

£500 I gather.

[Rich Wilts]

Eh? Five hundred squid?

[CleanClear]

Why wouldnt Steve want trained competent guys subbing from him??
Any one can clean a solar panel yes, but if something did go wrong im guessing without training and a certificate then insurance wouldnt pay out a dime and Stev would be in serious trouble letting a chancer onto a site who kills himself or does thiusands of pounds in damage!
I only take on subbys who have insurance! Only a fool wouldnt. Fair play i say for running in a professional maner. And if the training does cost and Steve earns from it then fair play to have got to that level where he can do that. Maybe learn from him instead of trying to run him down for offering work out to certified subbys.

You make a great point Mick. Out of interest, how many window cleaners that you sub too have you have to teach how to clean windows, and how many have you had to certify ? And are you certified yourself, you should be ? 

[deeege]

How much  is he charging for his course

£500 I gather.

Really?

Guys seriously deluded.

[Shane sharples]

£199 + vat

[Plankton]

I've sent THREE messages via the website and ain't heard now't back.
I would like to find out more about training and availability of contracts before the hecklers shut the post down.

[Smudger]

Steve is specialising in this area, he has from what I gather put in a tremendous amount of time and effort getting contacts in this area and turning it into potentially a very big business, all of that I applaude it's something many of us wish to aspire to.

However, setting up a 'certificate' that has no backing from any recognised training body is worthless when it comes to insurance it's no different from myself offering a h&s note to my staff, - I tried to make this point before but I think Steve got thr hump and wouldn't talk about it - as a main contractor Steve's requirement is to check his contractor is aware of any hazards and is insured this information should be a free exchange  of information - insisting that you must pay to take his training course or you won't get the work borders on very sharpe practice and in the future could lead to a nasty law suit ( ie.. Company claims to be discriminated against because they didn't pay for a mic key mouse course and show they are insured and com patent  to do the work, esp. As steve says its irrevivent for residential work or a company pays for the course in the expectation or promise of 11k of work and get one 50 job - sounds like extortion )

Commercially I can not be insured to operate a cherry picker without a recognised training cert. Am I insured to clean solar panels - yes I am, so in short Steve could not reasonably refuse to let me clean them if we agreed price/schedule etc.. Other than him asking for a big back hander under the guise of a "training scheme"

I don't know Steve personally, and a couple of years back we traded an email or two but we're miles apart on price, I'd be happy to consider solar panel work, there are a dozen or more big ones close to me, but like any other work I take on it first has to be profitable, and secondly I don't need to 'pay' for it, I get it on merit.

Just my  tuppenth worth 

Darran

[Bungle]

I'd be very interested to know how much people are being paid per panel via SS. If it's less than 3 quid a panel then I'm out 

[Plankton]

£3.00 and 25p are miles apart. How many panels could one man clean in a day on the ground. 500? That would equal £1500.00 or £125.00

[deeege]

£3.00 and 25p are miles apart. How many panels could one man clean in a day on the ground. 500? That would equal £1500.00 or £125.00

If you are expecting to get subbed £3 per panel jobs from Steve (or anyone else) you are setting yourself up to be disappointed.

[Rich Wilts]

Sub-contracting work out. It's being an employment agency more than anything else.

[Smudger]

Due to professional curtesy I'm not at liberty to discuss prices, needless to say it was less than the larger seven sided silver coin that is currently in circulation .

Darran

[Shane sharples]

Due to professional curtesy I'm not at liberty to discuss prices, needless to say it was less than the larger seven sided silver coin that is currently in circulation .

Darran

1 Barbadian dollar??

[CleanClear]

Steve is specialising in this area, he has from what I gather put in a tremendous amount of time and effort getting contacts in this area and turning it into potentially a very big business, all of that I applaude it's something many of us wish to aspire to.

However, setting up a 'certificate' that has no backing from any recognised training body is worthless when it comes to insurance it's no different from myself offering a h&s note to my staff, - I tried to make this point before but I think Steve got thr hump and wouldn't talk about it - as a main contractor Steve's requirement is to check his contractor is aware of any hazards and is insured this information should be a free exchange  of information - insisting that you must pay to take his training course or you won't get the work borders on very sharpe practice and in the future could lead to a nasty law suit ( ie.. Company claims to be discriminated against because they didn't pay for a mic key mouse course and show they are insured and com patent  to do the work, esp. As steve says its irrevivent for residential work or a company pays for the course in the expectation or promise of 11k of work and get one 50 job - sounds like extortion )

Commercially I can not be insured to operate a cherry picker without a recognised training cert. Am I insured to clean solar panels - yes I am, so in short Steve could not reasonably refuse to let me clean them if we agreed price/schedule etc.. Other than him asking for a big back hander under the guise of a "training scheme"

I don't know Steve personally, and a couple of years back we traded an email or two but we're miles apart on price, I'd be happy to consider solar panel work, there are a dozen or more big ones close to me, but like any other work I take on it first has to be profitable, and secondly I don't need to 'pay' for it, I get it on merit.

Just my  tuppenth worth 

Darran

I am impressed with your diplomacy, and getting your point right across.............11/10 !!!!   

[Smudger]

Thx clean clear - makes a change for me 

@ shrek  - ok uk coin 

Darran

[Shane sharples]

Ah ok I get ya lol 

[Rich Wilts]

When it comes to commercial ground arrays there's always going to be someone cheaper. 35p - 45p a panel is the going rate you can expect sub-contracting from SS on a days work.

[Bungle]

Due to professional curtesy I'm not at liberty to discuss prices, needless to say it was less than the larger seven sided silver coin that is currently in circulation .

Darran

Thanks for the info Darran. And SS says someone made 11k, I can't be arsed doing the maths 

[Bungle]

Oh and there's diesel to get there, your own water......

[Smudger]

I love it when people band about big figures,

11k of work ! Cool unless it takes 1000 hours to earn that amount 

Darran