[NWH]

I would not bother its over rated and I have used a gas boiler for 3 years  and three units later decided its not worth it and I don't think it cleans better. all the hassle of fitting and hoses bursting, not thanks.

get a proper one not a shower heater and you might change your mind,hot water systems must be used with the correct pressure fittings or you will have endless problems with reels especially

[Smurf]

What do you call a proper one?
How much do you think it costs to knock one of these up in the shed?
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/water-fed-poles/isothermal-diesel-water-heaters/pure-freedom-isothermal-diesel-water-heater-9kw-2-operator-unit.html
They must be making 100% markup on that surely

I would not bother its over rated and I have used a gas boiler for 3 years  and three units later decided its not worth it and I don't think it cleans better. all the hassle of fitting and hoses bursting, not thanks.

get a proper one not a shower heater and you might change your mind,hot water systems must be used with the correct pressure fittings or you will have endless problems with reels especially

[Smurf]

Some parts you might be interest in to knock one up yourself
Webasto  Thermo Pro 90 12v Heater | 9023075A
http://sales.butlertechnik.com/webasto/webasto-installation-complete-heater-install-kit/webasto-thermo-pro-90-12v-heater-9023075a?___SID=U

Heat exchanger
http://sales.butlertechnik.com/webasto-motor-home-plate-heat-exchanger-with-mixer-valve-4111209a

I'm sure if you enquired for all the bit you need they would offer a full package and maybe a bit of discount too

After all the likes of purefreedom just buy in the bits they want and stick them together in a box then charge silly money for them 

[Scrimble]

I only have a hot water system is so I can carry on cleaning when cold water is freezing and hot enables me to carry on

was 2010 when the country was frozen

[Smudger]

Hot water is only good for one thing - keeping the hoses supple in the cols weather allowing you to work quickly and easily, just like in the summer.

You can't get much closer to the coast than some of our cleans, and cold pure works perfectly well summer or winter.

Diesel systems are well over priced and for the benefits will take around 10 years to re coup just the initial outlay ( never mind the running costs )

Gas heaters - viable alternative, until you ask serious questions regarding insurance, I couldn't get any insurance company to give me written confirmation I was insured to use one of these things and carry the gas.
Immersion heaters have proved great! - they double as an anti frost device as well as heating the water when the vans were parked outside overnight, cheap and easy to install, hot water lasts all day and drops maybe 3 or 4 degrees over 5 hours.

Darran

[martin hulstone]

I too have serious issues about man made water heaters due to the insurance.

[SeanK]

Not sure about work vans but if you leave a gas appliance running in a motorhome and your not in it then you
wont be insured if the worst should happen.
I used to convert vans into campers and wasn't allowed to install the gas water heaters as the van wouldn't be insurable,
had to get a qualified guy to come and fit it and get the paperwork to prove it.
The thing is qualified guys wont touch those cheap imported gas heaters as they don't consider them safe, so you don't
really have a choice but to fit them yourself and hope the worst never happens.

[Shane sharples]

Not done a winter yet so I don't know what it's like , do the majority of you guys just use cold pure all year round?

[Smurf]

I'm aware of one  likes of suerclean systems  that install gas water heaters that are calor gas approved  installs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w

Also you will find a very expensive brand that also uses gas water heaters in there van mount systems which their name is  concept 2O http://www.clearviewplus.com/

Like with any gas appliance there are regs/guidelines to how they should be correctly installed

[martin hulstone]

Im sure they dont recommend fitting it to a trolley with the side door open!

[Smurf]

Nope but it's a portable system not fixed in the van 

Im sure they dont recommend fitting it to a trolley with the side door open!

[Smurf]

Obviously the safest option would be to get a diesel fired wabasto type water heater fitted correctly in the van instead of carry gas about. But you still see motor homes etc with gas systems so it’s down to the individual what they want to use at the end of the day.

[SeanK]

Not done a winter yet so I don't know what it's like , do the majority of you guys just use cold pure all year round?

To be honest Shane over this last four years Iv never lost more than a week over the winter because of minus temps
I think it was about 5 or 6 years ago when we got a very cold winter I lost about a month all in, it didn't go above minus 10
for about three weeks in a row so hot wouldn't have been any use anyway.
If you are planning to work in minus temps just be very careful where you leave water as you could be liable
for any slip hazards caused by this and don't get caught out like I did in my first year when my pole froze up in the extended
position, it was a real challenge to get it down again.
I forgot to mention I work with cold year round.

[Shane sharples]

Not done a winter yet so I don't know what it's like , do the majority of you guys just use cold pure all year round?

To be honest Shane over this last four years Iv never lost more than a week over the winter because of minus temps
I think it was about 5 or 6 years ago when we got a very cold winter I lost about a month all in, it didn't go above minus 10
for about three weeks in a row so hot wouldn't have been any use anyway.
If you are planning to work in minus temps just be very careful where you leave water as you could be liable
for any slip hazards caused by this and don't get caught out like I did in my first year when my pole froze up in the extended
position, it was a real challenge to get it down again.
I forgot to mention I work with cold year round.

That's not too bad, cheers for that advice Sean, never even thought of my pole freezing up! Hopefully won't be too bad this winter lol

[Peter Rayner]

I feel into that trap thinking a hot system is a help in the winter. Believe me its the opposite you have to drain your water heater every night to stop it freezing .
 

[Smudger]

Papa smurf - what's acceptable for personal use to that of business  and then again businesses with employee's differs vastly.

It should also be remembered that just because a company fits a gas system does not mean your insured.

Let's face it if the outside temp is below freezing then you also have to consider if it's safe to carry out window cleaning work due to ice, snow and road conditions

Darran

[Dave Willis]

I suppose I need to get my barbie set up by a gas safe engineer - god knows how I'll get the gas home when my cylinder needs replacing.

[Smudger]

Like it or not Dave this is the modern world, can't say I always care for it but if I don't follow it, it's my dangly bits for the chop.

Darran

[the king]

I suppose I need to get my barbie set up by a gas safe engineer - god knows how I'll get the gas home when my cylinder needs replacing.

 

[SeanK]

Like it or not Dave this is the modern world, can't say I always care for it but if I don't follow it, it's my dangly bits for the chop.

Darran

That's it exactly, but then looking at it in another way there are some real numpties out there, would you want one of their
DIY gas systems in a van parked outside your property.
I know I wouldn't.