[SeanK]

I do alot of what I call exterior deep cleans so hot water & soap is better than cold by miles.
You would not wash baked on  filthy dishes with just cold water now would you 

You have convinced me, once I start getting the same crap that's on dirty dishes on my windows I'm investing in hot.

[the king]

have u got a link to these heaters im very intrested on geting one

[Smurf]

I don't just clean windows I CLEAN them 

I do alot of what I call exterior deep cleans so hot water & soap is better than cold by miles.
You would not wash baked on  filthy dishes with just cold water now would you 

You have convinced me, once I start getting the same crap that's on dirty dishes on my windows I'm investing in hot.

[Smurf]

This is the same one I'm using at the mo http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-New-8L-Gas-LPG-Propane-Tankless-Instant-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler-/291137754549
It's a great little heater for my needs 

Just remember in winter below 0 to drain it down or it will freeze up  and be fit for the bin like the one I use to have 

have u got a link to these heaters im very intrested on geting one

[the king]

looks like a very good heater cheep to i take it u can mount it on the back door no flue needed

[Smurf]

I've got mine mounted on a purefreedom trolley by the side loading door no probs. The gas bottle is strapped in where the water container would go. No vent required as I leave the door slightly open so it vents just fine.

If you a worried about co2 then you can also fit an alarm in the cab as my van is fitted with a full steel bulkhead

looks like a very good heater cheep to i take it u can mount it on the back door no flue needed

[Dave Willis]

Yes, I have to admit my hot system has been brilliant for removing Weetabix, bacon rind, fried egg and dried on Tomato sauce from windows - I'd be lost without it.

[Smurf]

 

it's good at also removing dried on bird a bug poo, tree sap. lichen, backed on dirt/algae  just to name a few  not just the glass but the frames and other plastics  like cladding, f/s/g too.  All I can say it makes my job easier so I will stick to using hot 

Yes, I have to admit my hot system has been brilliant for removing Weetabix, bacon rind, fried egg and dried on Tomato sauce from windows - I'd be lost without it.

[the king]

smurf did u use a gas man to rig it up or did u just do it ur self im asuming its easy to rig up, also what gas do u use lpg ?were do u get urs?,  i can c the benifits to hot i work buy the sea lots of gulls craping on the glass even using ubik on the brush and leting it soak can b hard wrk at times

[Dave Willis]

it's good at also removing dried on bird a bug poo, tree sap. lichen, backed on dirt/algae  just to name a few  not just the glass but the frames and other plastics  like cladding, f/s/g too.  All I can say it makes my job easier so I will stick to using hot 

Yes, I have to admit my hot system has been brilliant for removing Weetabix, bacon rind, fried egg and dried on Tomato sauce from windows - I'd be lost without it.

When you say 'hot', how hot do you mean? After shattering a window I never used water other than luke warm which made it pretty pointless for me.

[dazmond]

smurf did u use a gas man to rig it up or did u just do it ur self im asuming its easy to rig up, also what gas do u use lpg ?were do u get urs?,  i can c the benifits to hot i work buy the sea lots of gulls craping on the glass even using ubik on the brush and leting it soak can b hard wrk at times

TBH mate if i worked by the sea i would use hot water all the time as it will help you with seasalt,seagull poo for sure.its easy to set it up yourself.you will have to use it pretty hot for it to have any cleaning power though.

and theres the rub.you need the water to be at 40degrees at least to see the benefit.

for most of us with regular maintenance window cleaning on 4/6/8 weekly frequencies away from the coast its an added expense thats really not needed IMO.cold water cleans just fine.

[dazmond]

youll need

L5 heater(or something similar)
gas bottle(i used 13kg bottles)
gas regulator
13mm car radiator hose(for hot outlet to reel)
heavy duty brass or metal hoselock(QR from gardiners)
3/4 BSP screw thread brass male hoselock for screwing on hot outlet
2 D cell batteries for auto ignition
hot water hose and a heavy duty reel if you havent already got one
you will also have to upgrade your brushes to stiff versions
hot water pole hose(red or orange from AD is what i used)

make sure the gas inlet connector is screwed in nice and tight with PTFE tape on thread.double clip all your hose connectors and use a power tool to get them extra tight.

you ll have to fanny about with the calibration so the pump shuts off shortly after turning your tap off at brush end or else you run the risk of blown hoses(trust me i know!).

any weakness in your system will be found out with hot water!

[Smurf]

It's easy to rig up on your own

smurf did u use a gas man to rig it up or did u just do it ur self im asuming its easy to rig up, also what gas do u use lpg ?were do u get urs?,  i can c the benifits to hot i work buy the sea lots of gulls craping on the glass even using ubik on the brush and leting it soak can b hard wrk at times

[dazmond]

i spent around £700 on everything then another £500 on gas in a 2 year period(used just for a few months over 2 winters)so £1200 altogether.

i can honestly say it was a waste of money for me plus the faffing around changing bottles etc.

you live and learn eh?

i could of had a mini break in a 5 star hotel with the missus with the money instead!

[Smurf]

I tend to use hot all the time but I do mostly salavge type cleans all year round. Even on regular frequency cleans it's nice to have the option as some properties are minging after a short space of time.   

i spent around £700 on everything then another £500 on gas in a 2 year period(used just for a few months over 2 winters)so £1200 altogether.

i can honestly say it was a waste of money for me plus the faffing around changing bottles etc.

you live and learn eh?

i could of had a mini break in a 5 star hotel with the missus with the money instead!

[SeanK]

smurf did u use a gas man to rig it up or did u just do it ur self im asuming its easy to rig up, also what gas do u use lpg ?were do u get urs?,  i can c the benifits to hot i work buy the sea lots of gulls craping on the glass even using ubik on the brush and leting it soak can b hard wrk at times

TBH mate if i worked by the sea i would use hot water all the time as it will help you with seasalt,seagull poo for sure.its easy to set it up yourself.you will have to use it pretty hot for it to have any cleaning power though.

and theres the rub.you need the water to be at 40degrees at least to see the benefit.

for most of us with regular maintenance window cleaning on 4/6/8 weekly frequencies away from the coast its an added expense thats really not needed IMO.cold water cleans just fine.

Dazmond has hit the nail on the head once again, other than the odd bit of stubborn bird poo you don't really get anything
on glass that cold pure wont shift easily.
Maybe its different by the coast I don't know as Iv never cleaned in those conditions but for most off us there's no real benefit
to using hot.

[Smurf]

SeanK have you tried hot then?

I know using hot shifts stubbon stuff darn easier than cold dose.
There is an ionics vid on the net somewhere showing using hot on a salvage clean etc to give ppl a better idea.

Found it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Qanob6u_M

What do you think chaps?

[Smurf]

If ionic say it's twice as fast on first cleans than cold I'm thinking with hot & say vision will it be 4 times as fast then?   

[slap bash]

+1 with Daz on hot water.

[SeanK]

SeanK have you tried hot then?

I know using hot shifts stubbon stuff darn easier than cold dose.
There is an ionics vid on the net somewhere showing using hot on a salvage clean etc to give ppl a better idea.

Found it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Qanob6u_M

What do you think chaps?

I haven't tried it for the simple reason I have never found the need, I don't get a lot of stuff on the  glass and frames that
requires a lot of effort to remove.
Like I have said the only thing would be the odd bit of stubborn bird poo but that wouldn't be enough to convert me to hot.
Even some of the horrendous first cleans I have done just required a spray of Virosol on the brush and the dirt came away
with ease.