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NWH

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2015, 06:45:00 pm »
If I was cleaning flat panes of glass with nothing in the way day in day out I could work with a addis floor brush but as we all know we are not. All this dual trim business IMO is not needed at all you just need tips that have some flex that don't deform with use for box sashes and the like. If it ain't broke leave it alone and it wasn't broken that much,all a dual trim does is flex the outer bristles when pressure is applied to the brush of the density of the bristles are right there is no need to chop out the middle of any brush

Fin Clearview

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2015, 11:42:47 pm »
I'm sending them back as they don't work on leads I'm afraid or Georgian windows, they bump and flick water all over the place.  IMO this model is almost unusable on anything but flat paned glass,I'm also not going for the sacrifice weight for design as some have said   They have made the best brushes in the past there first dual mono was superb packed full of bristles and floated over lead but was too heavy for a light pole,certain brushes can make a job take a lot longer if they don't float over obstacles like lead and plastic-wooden bars. If a pole is really really light the brush needs to feel like it's not even on the other end otherwise it's really noticeable even if it's a small amount in weight you feel it at the base of the pole. At some point I will make my point via a video showing how a stiff extreme does all this brush does with the right technique. Cross between a Vikan oval and sill brush

I have to agree with the comment about flicking water everywhere, I've used a mates standard medium while he was using a medium mixed. We both agree that although the splay is great, better on sills than extreme, you have to be careful not to flick water neat the trickle vents as it seems very easy to with these brushes.
im not convinced yet, the extreme is so easy to use i think time wise the extreme might still be popular brush or maybe a good brush to use on certain jobs.  Got a new slx 25 today (cheers Alex) with a soft mixed to try tomorrow though.

kempy

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2015, 12:22:00 am »
A good informative video , well done .
I will buy the two you raved about .
What's there proper names , the 2 black soft ones .

My Tecbuk is coming to an end soon as is a silk Gardiners brush 

Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2015, 06:13:10 am »
http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/the-supreme-soft-hybrid-brush.html

This is the one I predicted would be good and I LOVE It. Tried all apart from stiff. This one is by far my fav. Really happy with the brush. Weight is perfect balance.

Been putting in monster days this week and it's been a dream to use. Obviously I have a new electric reel as well. So that's been helping.

Next week I have 50+ first cleans. So this will be a good test for the brush.

Dave Willis

Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2015, 07:23:06 am »
I use the black and blue Hybrid Extreme for leaded - think it might have been flocked originally can't remember but I cut about a cm off the tips - works well fo rme.

Just got my supreme hybrid soft and new tap and swivel - doesn't look much for £65! - wife nearly passed out.  ;D

Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2015, 07:30:02 am »
That's the only extreme i use on a regular basis.

If I do swap to supreme brushes I'm gonna sell my sill brushes. Over the years I have acquired nearly 30 YAY

Alex Gardiner

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2015, 08:14:13 am »
Thought I would chip in here  :)

Its good to hear that many are liking the new Supreme brushes. However the new range is not intended to replace any of our current ranges, rather they have been released to supplement the range.

For many years now we have been asked to bring out a brush that was mid-way in weight between the Xtreme and the Super-Lite. We also have many clients who wanted more splay from  the brush bristles. The Supreme range does both of these things and it is really hitting the spot for many clients. In fact one of our clients (thanks smithy) a couple of years ago sent us his 'ideal brush' which was a Radius Sill DT brush from  which he had removed the lower part of the stock and bristles and just left the glass facing bristles. This brush looked almost identical to the bristle pattern on the new Supreme brush - naturally this client really likes the Supreme brush.

However as with all brush choices whether they suit your working method or preference is completely a personal and subjective  thing. As seen by NWH, who has always preferred a limited bristle splay they will of course not be the 'best' brush for such clients as they do have the greatest splay of any of our brushes produced to date. For such clients who like a limited splay we have the Xtreme or Super-Lite 0° Splay brushes.

There is also the benefit to having a choice of brushes in your van, ready for different tasks.


Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2015, 08:24:54 am »
COUGH 200g sill brush COUGH

Alex Gardiner

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2015, 08:46:31 am »
COUGH 200g sill brush COUGH

 :) easier said than manufactured!

Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2015, 08:57:39 am »
COUGH 200g sill brush COUGH

 :) easier said than manufactured!

Hollow air tight stock with helium filled middle, nozzle for top ups  ;D

Next.

robbo333

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2015, 05:34:00 pm »
COUGH 200g sill brush COUGH

 :) easier said than manufactured!

But what a challenge; it would be the pinnacle of brush design. Only one man can do it...  ;D
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Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2015, 05:53:08 pm »
Soft/hybrid supreme = MASSIVE WIN.

Loving the brush. Little bit jumpy on leaded tho.

robbo333

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2015, 05:59:03 pm »


Having said that, I got bored one Sunday (after a few beers) and in an attempt to make my sill brush lighter, I set about it with my Dewalt drill and reduced the amount of plastic stock. Fair play to the brush it has lasted really well as it gets a hammering on first cleans. Not sure how much lighter it is because I have nothing accurate enough to measure it with. Perhaps I shouldn't be allowed to have a drill!  ;D
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Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2015, 06:20:25 pm »
I will now have nightmares.

I have a fear of holes in chocolate lol

Aeros just freak me out. SO cheers ;D

Dave Willis

Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2015, 07:32:02 pm »
Tried my Supreme brush today ........ hmmmm, it's just a brush. Reminds me of the oval Vikans of fifty years ago  ;D
Think I'll stick with the Extremes.

windowswashed

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2015, 08:49:29 pm »
The supreme soft is naff scrubbing up and down as it bounces over the lead something terrible on leaded windows but usable if scrubbing sideways. The supreme white is better on leaded windows for scrubbing up and down movement. The soft black is lovely on Georgian windows once you get use to aiming the angle of the stock one click higher than the extreme brushes.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2015, 09:31:08 pm »
The supreme soft is naff scrubbing up and down as it bounces over the lead something terrible on leaded windows but usable if scrubbing sideways. The supreme white is better on leaded windows for scrubbing up and down movement. The soft black is lovely on Georgian windows once you get use to aiming the angle of the stock one click higher than the extreme brushes.

Yes spot on. Will try medium on leaded. Thanks.

Fin Clearview

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2015, 12:22:14 am »
Tried my Supreme brush today ........ hmmmm, it's just a brush. Reminds me of the oval Vikans of fifty years ago  ;D
Think I'll stick with the Extremes.

Think you could be right Dave.

Dave Willis

Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2015, 07:04:58 am »
I had some stubborn snail trails too and although they came off I didn't find the natural bristles any better than anything else, I was hoping they would be cleared in two passes of the brush but they didn't. Shame, as I had really high hopes. Not particularly accurate for sash windows either, still a good brush but nothing out of the norm. Just glad I didn't buy the six pack.
Also, although the weight is very reasonable it's still pretty hefty once loaded up with water and feels too heavy for an Extreme pole. Good beginners brush.  ;)

Clever Forum Name

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Re: A quick video of the new Supreme brush range from Gardiner.
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2015, 07:21:33 am »
I had some stubborn snail trails too and although they came off I didn't find the natural bristles any better than anything else, I was hoping they would be cleared in two passes of the brush but they didn't. Shame, as I had really high hopes. Not particularly accurate for sash windows either, still a good brush but nothing out of the norm. Just glad I didn't buy the six pack.
Also, although the weight is very reasonable it's still pretty hefty once loaded up with water and feels too heavy for an Extreme pole. Good beginners brush.  ;)

So you will be using extreme brushes on sash windows? No wonder you don't like wfp results ;)

I'd lose customers daily if I used extremes on sash windows which are on the these new housing developments.