[Richard ham]

Has anyone tried this..http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/the-badger-facelift-phoenix-water-fed-brush.html

Looks good, i like the protective stock.

[Mike #1]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

[Marc Whitbread]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

+1

Gardiners are great and that looks heavy

[Dave Willis]

I'm waiting for the Gardiners 'brazilian' when it comes out - better looking than a badger.

[Richard ham]

I thought it looked like a superlite with the bumper on.

[Plankton]

Brush looks ok but without any reviews you'll never know until you buy it. Personally the fixed fitting doesn't suit me... it's not comparable with Gardiners Quick-Loc !

[Jonny 87]

Brush looks ok but without any reviews you'll never know until you buy it. Personally the fixed fitting doesn't suit me... it's not comparable with Gardiners Quick-Loc !

I wa thinking the same.

I'd have to start hacking away and grinding off the stock to fit a quik Loq. Can't be bothered.lol

[Stephen Fox]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

+1

Gardiners are great and that looks heavy

Does it look heavy as it has a nice amount of bristles? It's simple to make a brush light - skimp on bristles and stock size. Will put weights on this week. As a side note -  Weight is relative - light brushes simply have less bristles and a far smaller splayed area meaning you have to do more work to cover the same work area. If you put this, or another brush, on a Neon the overall weight will be 200g lighter than any other pole in any case. 

[ChumBucket]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

+1

Gardiners are great and that looks heavy

Does it look heavy as it has a nice amount of bristles? It's simple to make a brush light - skimp on bristles and stock size. Will put weights on this week. As a side note -  Weight is relative - light brushes simply have less bristles and a far smaller splayed area meaning you have to do more work to cover the same work area. If you put this, or another brush, on a Neon the overall weight will be 200g lighter than any other pole in any case. 

Would that be the same Neon you ripped off Gardiner's Xtreme design with & claim it for yourself?

[Stephen Fox]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

+1

Gardiners are great and that looks heavy

Does it look heavy as it has a nice amount of bristles? It's simple to make a brush light - skimp on bristles and stock size. Will put weights on this week. As a side note -  Weight is relative - light brushes simply have less bristles and a far smaller splayed area meaning you have to do more work to cover the same work area. If you put this, or another brush, on a Neon the overall weight will be 200g lighter than any other pole in any case. 

Would that be the same Neon you ripped off Gardiner's Xtreme design with & claim it for yourself?

No ripping off Chump, Neon is based on 20+ year old technology, go figure....

[ChumBucket]

The one reason I don't buy anything other than Gardiners brushes is right in the link you posted Or Not , no real info or decent pics of the brush , Oh and Looks Like A Brick

+1

Gardiners are great and that looks heavy

Does it look heavy as it has a nice amount of bristles? It's simple to make a brush light - skimp on bristles and stock size. Will put weights on this week. As a side note -  Weight is relative - light brushes simply have less bristles and a far smaller splayed area meaning you have to do more work to cover the same work area. If you put this, or another brush, on a Neon the overall weight will be 200g lighter than any other pole in any case. 

Would that be the same Neon you ripped off Gardiner's Xtreme design with & claim it for yourself?

No ripping off Chump, Neon is based on 20+ year old technology, go figure....

From where I'm looking Foxy it's an almost identical replication of Gardiner's Xtreme design & innovation! Very disingenuous on your part to claim otherwise. However, I can safely assume it's of much lesser quality than the "Real Maccoy"!! 

[Stephen Fox]

Chump, you've got both to make that claim?

[Mick Kent]

whats the neon?? any link i'm interested.

[Lee GLS]

The badger brush is 360g. Bit to heavy for me.

[kempy]

His only trying to create a product guys . Give him a break ,
If it's for you buy it , if not just keep buying your own preference brush .

Plenty of choice out their .

Atm I have gardeners Cill brush , another gardeners and 3 different Tecbuks .

And a Vivian brick .

I still think there's improvements to be made on all of what I'm using .

Never had a Facelift one

[Richard ham]

Neon clamps look different to me.

[dazmond]

The badger brush is 360g. Bit to heavy for me.

far too heavy for a regular brush on the end of your pole for sure.

[Dave Willis]

Just as well stick a real badger on the end - about the same weight. We've got loads by the side of the road down here.

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

I have been using the 'phoenix brush for the last couple of months, mainly on first cleans with hot water, I have to say it has been FANTASTIC! The bristles hold there shape very well and it has excellent cleaning power. A little stiff if you are using cold on leaded glass but you can just get away with it on lead using hot.

The only thing with the badger is the fixed attachment angle. I would like to try this and will probably do so when the phoenix is completely worn out.

If the phoenix is anything to go by it should be good.
Hope this helps.
 
(Mr Fox if you would like a review doing on the badger I would be more than happy too if one accidently arrived for us to try. lol.)

[ChumBucket]

May as well stick a Super-Lite on the end as Facelift seem to be making cheap copies of everything Gardiner these days!!