[jk999]

Slap you probably cant afford vision n thats why you are slating the product , until you have tried it shut the hell up , everyone I know has tried it and the product works brilliant so dont slate a product that you havent tried

[paul ette]

jeezus whats all that about, sounds like someone aint gettin none

[Pj]

I'm trailing Vision at the moment, day 2 complete, too early to comment.  A very good friend has given me a bottle to try.

Just a thought to you guys behind this product, regarding all the banter on this forum, a bit of advice - "you can't shut every barking dog up" - so don't try, as we all know once you are on the tinterweb the line can very quickly blur between banter and insults.

Take Tosh for example... Please?  Someone?  Anyone? 

[jk999]

Paul since they launched vision there has been a few on here slating the product when they haven't  even tried it . I have used it and so has many others most are very happy . I can't do with people  that slags  something  off they know nothing about  

[slap bash]

That`s just were you are wrong I he used Vision as a mate bought some with me and we tried it not overly impressed. Don`t feel it warrants the extra expense as I already get good results with out it. Pole chap come on here and this forum stops them chatting about there poles but you guys just keep these threads going to milk the system. Anyway I will refrain from more verbals so you can exploit the forum. You guys go on as if its gold you have discovered, its boring.

[Pj]

No, Gold discovered Flounce.  Keep up!

[duncan h]

Lets not forget all the slagging off its getting. To me. If they are window cleaners and have contributed on here, they so be it. If they are a company that's come on here to sell a product, that's different.
I havnt heard any selling of VISION VISION VISION VISION VISION VISION VISION   on here at all...from the owners.
http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk/product/vision-single-pack/
lmao  
I should get mine any day. If its naff. Ill let you know...trust me.

[Jonny 87]

I'm trailing Vision at the moment, day 2 complete, too early to comment.  A very good friend has given me a bottle to try.

Just a thought to you guys behind this product, regarding all the banter on this forum, a bit of advice - "you can't shut every barking dog up" - so don't try, as we all know once you are on the tinterweb the line can very quickly blur between banter and insults.

Take Tosh for example... Please?  Someone?  Anyone? 

Wise words pj.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I cannot believe Tosh is so asleep to allow these so called adverting going on this forum unpaid for .As the one fades out another starts,come guys it not a miracle its a rinsing agent.You are pushing the boundaries it will backfire as more get tired of all this vision lark. We all done well without it so cut trying to hype up a worn out thread. Its been rammed down our throats a bit.

From my use this isn't just a rinsing agent, it's the opposite to a rinsing agent as it makes the water stick to the glass.  It does however blitz birds muck like nothing I've seen before.  I don't know if that's because I'm using hot water as well but Birds doing last only a few swipes.

I think the reason why people are so negative about this product is that for years we have all been saying pure water is the way to go, then some one comes along to sell us something to put in our pure water and everyone thinks that they are being ripped off until they try it.

Out of interest, when I've mixed the solution in the tank I notice that the water gives off a gas whilst the solution is mixing, can anyone tell me what gas it is?

Simon.

[hasti]

I cannot believe Tosh is so asleep to allow these so called adverting going on this forum unpaid for .As the one fades out another starts,come guys it not a miracle its a rinsing agent.You are pushing the boundaries it will backfire as more get tired of all this vision lark. We all done well without it so cut trying to hype up a worn out thread. Its been rammed down our throats a bit.

From my use this isn't just a rinsing agent, it's the opposite to a rinsing agent as it makes the water stick to the glass.  It does however blitz birds muck like nothing I've seen before.  I don't know if that's because I'm using hot water as well but Birds doing last only a few swipes.

I think the reason why people are so negative about this product is that for years we have all been saying pure water is the way to go, then some one comes along to sell us something to put in our pure water and everyone thinks that they are being ripped off until they try it.

Out of interest, when I've mixed the solution in the tank I notice that the water gives off a gas whilst the solution is mixing, can anyone tell me what gas it is?

Simon.

Gas ?  thats new to me  I think is Cyanide gas  careful with it.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I cannot believe Tosh is so asleep to allow these so called adverting going on this forum unpaid for .As the one fades out another starts,come guys it not a miracle its a rinsing agent.You are pushing the boundaries it will backfire as more get tired of all this vision lark. We all done well without it so cut trying to hype up a worn out thread. Its been rammed down our throats a bit.

From my use this isn't just a rinsing agent, it's the opposite to a rinsing agent as it makes the water stick to the glass.  It does however blitz birds muck like nothing I've seen before.  I don't know if that's because I'm using hot water as well but Birds doing last only a few swipes.

I think the reason why people are so negative about this product is that for years we have all been saying pure water is the way to go, then some one comes along to sell us something to put in our pure water and everyone thinks that they are being ripped off until they try it.

Out of interest, when I've mixed the solution in the tank I notice that the water gives off a gas whilst the solution is mixing, can anyone tell me what gas it is?

Simon.

Gas ?   thats new to me   I think is Cyanide gas   careful with it.

Seriously has nobody else noticed this?  I put the solution in first and then fill so it gets mixed despite the baffles, so maybe it speeds thing up.  To me there definitely seems to be gas released as the solution mixes in or rather reacts with the water.  It would also explain how 1ml of solution can affect 100L of water so dramatically, a chemical reaction is taking place.  Do you know what the gas is.  Hopefully not cyanide.

Simon.

[Dave Willis]

Ask the chemists who make the stuff - they should know.

Hydrogen Chloride perhaps?

[kempy]

I fill mine up this way with the water purifying down onto the Vision mix . Been using it  over 12 months and not had this .
I've had the mix disperse into the pure water with a whitening effect , but that's it .

[duncan h]

Maybe he put a Barnsley "E" in it, just for you. Ill test, with a lighter and see if my dogs can smell it 

[kempy]

Suprise another Dave Willis post .
 

[Dave Willis]

Glad to help - we had trouble with our Froff - info here http://www.dhmo.org/

[kempy]

I think you need help or a hobby
 

[paul ette]

Paul since they launched vision there has been a few on here slating the product when they haven't  even tried it . I have used it and so has many others most are very happy . I can't do with people  that slags  something  off they know nothing about  

i know i was talking about the other guy lol, ive been using it all week and seems to work well, especially on bird poo and stubborn marks.
one thing i was wondering , does it leave a residue on windows and if after a while i stop using it, will it then cause spotting until i break down the layer on glass(like  when you start wfp after window been done trad for a long time) if that makes sense

[Mike #1]

I cannot believe Tosh is so asleep to allow these so called adverting going on this forum unpaid for .As the one fades out another starts,come guys it not a miracle its a rinsing agent.You are pushing the boundaries it will backfire as more get tired of all this vision lark. We all done well without it so cut trying to hype up a worn out thread. Its been rammed down our throats a bit.

From my use this isn't just a rinsing agent, it's the opposite to a rinsing agent as it makes the water stick to the glass.  

I was hoping it would help with rinsing , Make it quicker i have some very large double bay windowed fronted houses that always need extra rinsing because of crap of main road all year round .

Guess I'll find out in time as to the benefits when mine arrives hopefully Friday .

[SeanK]

Its just a pity that somebody couldn't bottle common sense as there seems to be a severe shortage of
it on this forum lately.