[Clever Forum Name]

WFP and drying windows LMAO.

[Window Lickers]

Gotta be honest Gary, why do you bother. Just do em trad.


Hold on it's Lucy Verasamy doing the weather forecast.

[gary999]

Gotta be honest Gary, why do you bother. Just do em trad.


Hold on it's Lucy Verasamy doing the weather forecast.

Because its safer doing Water fed trad

iI clean all frames glass cills etc and ,i wouldnt be that accurate tradding
with a pole and it would take me all day

[gary999]

WFP and drying windows LMAO.

Im not actually wfp though strictly am i,as i dont use pure water.

To be honest i actually enjoy it more this way,it helps to ease the
boredom and i still make a decent whack.

So hey ho keep laughing

[Clever Forum Name]

WFP stands for water fed pole.

Not pure water fed pole.

Doesn't bother me how you clean. Just glad you are away from me otherwise my customers would want the same treatment which they would not be getting at all.

If if works for you then fair play. Too much hard work for my liking.

[Mick Kent]

I used to goto 030 for years untill the last 6 months where i get spots with anything over 010 so to be safe i change at 005 now and again never have spots.

The problem i have is my pure freedom 4040. Both times i have bought a new membrane i cant get it below 035. Im using a booster pump too.
Could it be the wrong valve fitted as it either goes to full flush or make pure at same pressure i cant adjust anything to make 50/50 60/40 70/30 pure to waste etc??
I read how some guys get there 4040 down to under 005ppm. How with water going in is 350-380??

[Clever Forum Name]

Anything over 350PPM and I would be using a water softener anyway. 

[Bungle]

Don't use resin,my tapwater comes out at just over 30ppm and
problem windows I just squeegee dry.

Which part dont you believe,i dont use resin or i dry windows with
a squeegee and to add up to 2nd floor aswell.

Are you telling us 030ppm does a good job? Rubbish! And as for blading pure, sheesh.

Right let me educate you,i have been cleaning this way for nearly eighteen months
now and yes 30ppm can give decent results for example on new build properties
i clean its never a problem,i squeegee dry the down stairs as a precaution,its
only a very quick drying as its only water and this time of year its a doddle.

I clean an awful lot of old properties with leaded lights and never have a
problem with these either with 30ppm

Older style semis can be a problem so i generally dry all windows
after cleaning upstairs using a unger pole couple of straight pulls its
done.

Windows with the pretend leaded strips are the worst so i tend to avoid
these properties and only have a few on my round.

Must order a reach around from gardiners,i used just use a optilock for
wfp was easy just to pop brush off and plonk a blade on,but since
ive bought the clx it has slowed me down a little.

Anyways believe what you like,i even include the drying of the glass
in my pricing so even though im a little slower than straight wfp it
balances itself out and with the drying of the glass the customer thinks
they are getting something extra for there money compared to other
splash and dashers in the area.

PMPL, are you trying to educate us that 030ppm water does a good job? Mate, my water is soft and I tried WFP my windows with 028ppm and they were rank. You are conning yourself. Buy a DI vessel and a bag of resin and do a proper job.

[gary999]

WFP stands for water fed pole.

Not pure water fed pole.

Doesn't bother me how you clean. Just glad you are away from me otherwise my customers would want the same treatment which they would not be getting at all.

If if works for you then fair play. Too much hard work for my liking.

Cmon pure your not that daft

water fed poling you can only generally splash and dash and leave
confidently because of the pure water.

im WFT

Like i said before i include the blading in price,the customer thinks
they are getting something extra.

Lots of polers round here these days,its something than can give me
a edge over others at times and its nothing to me.

Plus i never worry about making water in the winter,just turn the
tap on and away i go

[Window Lickers]

If that's what your tap water comes out at then why not just get a DI vessel?

[gary999]

Don't use resin,my tapwater comes out at just over 30ppm and
problem windows I just squeegee dry.

Which part dont you believe,i dont use resin or i dry windows with
a squeegee and to add up to 2nd floor aswell.

Are you telling us 030ppm does a good job? Rubbish! And as for blading pure, sheesh.

Right let me educate you,i have been cleaning this way for nearly eighteen months
now and yes 30ppm can give decent results for example on new build properties
i clean its never a problem,i squeegee dry the down stairs as a precaution,its
only a very quick drying as its only water and this time of year its a doddle.

I clean an awful lot of old properties with leaded lights and never have a
problem with these either with 30ppm

Older style semis can be a problem so i generally dry all windows
after cleaning upstairs using a unger pole couple of straight pulls its
done.

Windows with the pretend leaded strips are the worst so i tend to avoid
these properties and only have a few on my round.

Must order a reach around from gardiners,i used just use a optilock for
wfp was easy just to pop brush off and plonk a blade on,but since
ive bought the clx it has slowed me down a little.

Anyways believe what you like,i even include the drying of the glass
in my pricing so even though im a little slower than straight wfp it
balances itself out and with the drying of the glass the customer thinks
they are getting something extra for there money compared to other
splash and dashers in the area.

PMPL, are you trying to educate us that 030ppm water does a good job? Mate, my water is soft and I tried WFP my windows with 028ppm and they were rank. You are conning yourself. Buy a DI vessel and a bag of resin and do a proper job.

Matey you obviously havent read my post correctly,i have said 30ppm
can give good results and given examples of the good and bad

It may turn out rank on your windows but 28ppm will do a decent job
on other properties but not necessarily all

Ive been wfp since 2007 still own a ro and a 19litre di vessel,i just
choose not to use them.

No one is telling you to do the same,i was just simply educating
you to what i do as in response to you telling me i was a liar
and didnt work this way.

[gary999]

If that's what your tap water comes out at then why not just get a DI vessel?

Because i dont feel the need and on a high percentage of the properties
i clean for example new builds and leaded lights i dont need  000ppm
and 30ppm works fine.

[Window Lickers]

What I don't get on here is when peeps say things like '30ppm works on my windows but it might not work on yours'. How can that happen?


Glass is glass and 30 ppm water is 30 ppm water. Nothing to do with the operative.

It's all down to what you 'think' works, whether it does or not.

[Bungle]

Don't use resin,my tapwater comes out at just over 30ppm and
problem windows I just squeegee dry.

Which part dont you believe,i dont use resin or i dry windows with
a squeegee and to add up to 2nd floor aswell.

Are you telling us 030ppm does a good job? Rubbish! And as for blading pure, sheesh.

Right let me educate you,i have been cleaning this way for nearly eighteen months
now and yes 30ppm can give decent results for example on new build properties
i clean its never a problem,i squeegee dry the down stairs as a precaution,its
only a very quick drying as its only water and this time of year its a doddle.

I clean an awful lot of old properties with leaded lights and never have a
problem with these either with 30ppm

Older style semis can be a problem so i generally dry all windows
after cleaning upstairs using a unger pole couple of straight pulls its
done.

Windows with the pretend leaded strips are the worst so i tend to avoid
these properties and only have a few on my round.

Must order a reach around from gardiners,i used just use a optilock for
wfp was easy just to pop brush off and plonk a blade on,but since
ive bought the clx it has slowed me down a little.

Anyways believe what you like,i even include the drying of the glass
in my pricing so even though im a little slower than straight wfp it
balances itself out and with the drying of the glass the customer thinks
they are getting something extra for there money compared to other
splash and dashers in the area.

PMPL, are you trying to educate us that 030ppm water does a good job? Mate, my water is soft and I tried WFP my windows with 028ppm and they were rank. You are conning yourself. Buy a DI vessel and a bag of resin and do a proper job.

Matey you obviously havent read my post correctly,i have said 30ppm
can give good results and given examples of the good and bad

It may turn out rank on your windows but 28ppm will do a decent job
on other properties but not necessarily all

Ive been wfp since 2007 still own a ro and a 19litre di vessel,i just
choose not to use them.

No one is telling you to do the same,i was just simply educating
you to what i do as in response to you telling me i was a liar
and didnt work this way.

I posted a comical GIF, because I find it comical that someone works with water of 030ppm from a WFP and blades them dry (possibly making the glass look even worse) on the upstairs windows with a trad pole. How hard are you trying to make the job be?

Or are you on the wind up? 

[Clever Forum Name]

Ford focus
30ppm
Harris pole
Blade the windows dry
Easy £600 a day.

[gary999]

Don't use resin,my tapwater comes out at just over 30ppm and
problem windows I just squeegee dry.

Which part dont you believe,i dont use resin or i dry windows with
a squeegee and to add up to 2nd floor aswell.

Are you telling us 030ppm does a good job? Rubbish! And as for blading pure, sheesh.

Right let me educate you,i have been cleaning this way for nearly eighteen months
now and yes 30ppm can give decent results for example on new build properties
i clean its never a problem,i squeegee dry the down stairs as a precaution,its
only a very quick drying as its only water and this time of year its a doddle.

I clean an awful lot of old properties with leaded lights and never have a
problem with these either with 30ppm

Older style semis can be a problem so i generally dry all windows
after cleaning upstairs using a unger pole couple of straight pulls its
done.

Windows with the pretend leaded strips are the worst so i tend to avoid
these properties and only have a few on my round.

Must order a reach around from gardiners,i used just use a optilock for
wfp was easy just to pop brush off and plonk a blade on,but since
ive bought the clx it has slowed me down a little.

Anyways believe what you like,i even include the drying of the glass
in my pricing so even though im a little slower than straight wfp it
balances itself out and with the drying of the glass the customer thinks
they are getting something extra for there money compared to other
splash and dashers in the area.

PMPL, are you trying to educate us that 030ppm water does a good job? Mate, my water is soft and I tried WFP my windows with 028ppm and they were rank. You are conning yourself. Buy a DI vessel and a bag of resin and do a proper job.

Matey you obviously havent read my post correctly,i have said 30ppm
can give good results and given examples of the good and bad

It may turn out rank on your windows but 28ppm will do a decent job
on other properties but not necessarily all

Ive been wfp since 2007 still own a ro and a 19litre di vessel,i just
choose not to use them.

No one is telling you to do the same,i was just simply educating
you to what i do as in response to you telling me i was a liar
and didnt work this way.

I posted a comical GIF, because I find it comical that someone works with water of 030ppm from a WFP and blades them dry (possibly making the glass look even worse) on the upstairs windows with a trad pole. How hard are you trying to make the job be?

Or are you on the wind up? 

Matey how would I make the windows worse, You are using water to clean the windows
i clean the muck off then dry them after why would they be worse

This is only on a certain percentage of windows i clean.

I guarantee mate i get plenty of recomendations

[gary999]

Ford focus
30ppm
Harris pole
Blade the windows dry
Easy £600 a day.

Actually i use a vauhall astra estate,clx and make nowhere near
£600.

I only clean 4-5 hours a day most of the year 4 days a week
im fortunate that i don't need to work fulltime if i don't want to.

[gary999]

What I don't get on here is when peeps say things like '30ppm works on my windows but it might not work on yours'. How can that happen?


Glass is glass and 30 ppm water is 30 ppm water. Nothing to do with the operative.

It's all down to what you 'think' works, whether it does or not.

Actually i do find a diffrence the state of frames seals hydrophobic/hydrophilic glass
all come into play, plus what makes up the tds of the 30ppm.

The problems i get with 30ppm which really is still a relatively low tds
is on hydrophobic glass.

Most of the property i clean there is the hydrophilic effect where the water
seems to shrink away evenly especially on the new build areas which are
local to myself,i never get a spot on these.

[G Griffin]

WFT is just too close to WTF.

[gary999]

WFT is just too close to WTF.