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geoffreyspecht

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Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2014, 09:39:44 pm »
i think for most of us well established WFP window cleaners(up north anyway).£180-£250 turnover is the norm for a  6 or 7 hour day "on the glass".as for day rates for large houses.i dont clean any that take all day to clean.if i ever do then my minimum charge would be £200.

lots of other things come into play though like bad weather,shorter days due to low motivation/time of year,unexpected days off due to illness/injury/van repairs/MOT etc and of course time off for holidays that are unpaid.

add on expenses,insurance and tax then the £180-£250 average day rate isnt that great.ok better than a lot of unskilled jobs.you can still make a good profit at the end of the year to keep you motivated to carry on with window cleaning but IMO if your day rates more like £100-£140 then your gonna struggle to make a good profit at the end of the year after all expenses and tax are deducted.in fact id go as far to say that you ll only just "get by" paying bills and have very little disposable income to spend on the luxuries in life unless you price better and work more efficiently.

i speak from experience and the OP seems to have the same attitude that i used to have years ago which thankfully ive changed due to this forum,being more focused and motivated and adopting a professional approach in all areas of my business esp in regards to pricing work,organization etc.
i cold live on a £100 a day and save money

geoffreyspecht

  • Posts: 485
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2014, 09:50:04 pm »
I been cleaning windows now for 7 years
im water fed and trad im always listening to
other window cleaners and reading on this forum about
how much they charge for a day rate and im gob smacked
One guy said £300 pounds. who would pay that much for a clean
i mean anyone can clean a window cant they i have never earned that much
for a day on a domestic property i just cant believe somone would pay that
 :-X or am i wrong?? i clean for some big property's and they moan at a £100  a day i dont think i would have a business at all if i was charging £300 pounds a day :-\its simple work on £30 an hour including travelling time. then work a 10 hour day equals £300 a day

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2014, 12:03:15 am »
You could always work harder as well.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

rosskesava

  • Posts: 17015
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2014, 12:56:01 am »
Sometimes when I'm working in East London I get water from a place in Darenth, nr Dartford near where the A2 meets the M25.

A while back I was there when another window cleaner was piling barrels of water into a smallish car that was then to my way of thinking seriously over loaded.

When I said to the (ex window cleaner) bloke who sells the water about it he said that to read what the bloke says on a window cleaning forum I'd just laugh as he claims to earn an impossible amount each day from a few barrels in a small car.

Yes, that window cleaner posts on this forum. I won't say who he is and yes, when I read some of what he posts, he talks the talk but in real life, he's a Walter Mitty.

Mate, you know who you are but don't worry - I won't burst your bubble.

I think there's more than a few of them on this forum.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Mick Kent

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Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2014, 01:08:32 am »
Spill the beans who is it???

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3515
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2014, 01:12:19 am »
Sometimes when I'm working in East London I get water from a place in Darenth, nr Dartford near where the A2 meets the M25.

A while back I was there when another window cleaner was piling barrels of water into a smallish car that was then to my way of thinking seriously over loaded.

When I said to the (ex window cleaner) bloke who sells the water about it he said that to read what the bloke says on a window cleaning forum I'd just laugh as he claims to earn an impossible amount each day from a few barrels in a small car.

Yes, that window cleaner posts on this forum. I won't say who he is and yes, when I read some of what he posts, he talks the talk but in real life, he's a Walter Mitty.

Mate, you know who you are but don't worry - I won't burst your bubble.

I think there's more than a few of them on this forum.

Aw no way. You can't leave us hanging like that. Haha.

Even a clue?
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

rosskesava

  • Posts: 17015
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2014, 01:44:18 am »
Spill the beans who is it???

Nope. Sorry. No way. I was told in confidence.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

gary999

  • Posts: 8156
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2014, 08:04:40 am »
I use a astra estate and only earn £3000 a day so it cant be
me ;D

Come on Ross spill! :)

SeanK

Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2014, 12:11:46 pm »
I don't know why but its seems to be a window cleaner thing, I know guys now working in
factories who still boast about what they where earning when cleaning windows.
Yet they walked away from this fortune maker to work in a factory for £10 an hour.

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2014, 01:02:21 pm »
Mick Kent  ;D
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2014, 02:20:44 pm »
Mick Kent  ;D

 ;D clues in the location  ;D

Dont work in secret services Ross.... ;)

Mick Kent

  • Posts: 1380
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2014, 03:15:01 pm »
 :o. Noooo i have been sussed out! Anyone selling a harris pole or giving away any old used and abused poles please??  ;D

supernova77

  • Posts: 3547
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2014, 03:32:56 pm »
Quote
Talk about chancers, woman approached me this week she lives in a big five bed detached...
My window cleaner has quit would you be able to do mine and what would you charge.
I said £15 but it will be going up in the new year to £17.
She went pale and said my last cleaner only charged £5 I will text you and let you know... I replied O.K.
There's more chance of me winning the lottery than she has of me cleaning her windows even if she agrees to my
price.
I just cant stand anybody who would expect somebody to do that amount of work for so little money.
The thing is I know the guy was cleaning them for that price.

£15 for a big five bed detached house  ??? ??? ???

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2014, 03:45:08 pm »
Same as a local cleaner who I know.

Little does he know he cleans two of my friends.

"Yeah mate £25 house each them two"

Oh really?

Try 12.50 £ each.

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3515
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2014, 06:53:46 pm »
Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.

Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.

 ;D
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Tom-01

  • Posts: 1349
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2014, 08:51:41 pm »
Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.

Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.

 ;D

That's almost a Bruce Springsteen lyric there "Trust none of what you hear
And less of what you see"

You should change your name from Johnny 87 to Johnny 99  ;D

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3515
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2014, 09:06:07 pm »
Sometimes the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise.

Only believe half of what you see, and nothing that you hear.

 ;D

That's almost a Bruce Springsteen lyric there "Trust none of what you hear
And less of what you see"

You should change your name from Johnny 87 to Johnny 99  ;D

Hahaha

 ;D
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

G Griffin

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Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2014, 09:28:01 pm »
Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross  :-X.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

rosskesava

  • Posts: 17015
Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2014, 12:57:49 am »


 ;D clues in the location  ;D

Dont work in secret services Ross.... ;)

Location - that's why I mentioned it. To hopefully curtail the BS because that is not good for him and it also paints a false picture on here as to what is achievable for most wfp windies.

It ain't Mr Mick Kent though.

The bloke who supplies the water used to post on here as well a few years back when he was window cleaning. He advertises pure water on ebay and that has been mentioned on here in the past.

Spill the beans who is it???
Don't tell um, Ross  :-X.

I said I won't and I won't.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Re: how do you get away with it
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2014, 01:47:28 am »