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JSMC

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hot systems for winter
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:08:38 pm »
what is your views on them?

any horror stories of window  cracking etc or problems with gas or insurance.

installation, best systems, ease of operation,  equipment required etc ...........

PoleKing

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 09:36:04 pm »
Be sensible. If you can't put your hand in it-it's too hot.
It's lovely but it's not gonna change your life unless it gets bitterly cold this year.
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It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 09:51:07 pm »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.

J.D

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 10:01:02 pm »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.

Can you give me a link for the immersion heaters KS? Silly question time - His do you power the elements from an electric lead?

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 10:10:29 pm »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.
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Can you give me a link for the immersion heaters KS? Silly question time - His do you power the elements from an electric lead?
Sorry can't do links :-[, I will have a look on ebay for you tho. Yes you would just need extension lead to van

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 10:27:47 pm »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.
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Can you give me a link for the immersion heaters KS? Silly question time - His do you power the elements from an electric lead?
Sorry can't do links :-[, I will have a look on ebay for you tho. Yes you would just need extension lead to van
If you go into Ebay and put in a search for 'garden portable immersion heater' they are 2000w £9.99 each from Hong Kong free delivery

Simon Mess

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 07:39:14 am »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.

When you say overnight, how long are we talking about?. I have been thinking about this method myself, had actually been thinking about it this time last year, but we didn't really get that much cold weather!.

Also, how hot does the water need to be for you to need hot water hoses and fittings?, is there a certain temperature up to which you would be fine with normal stuff?

paul ette

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 08:35:55 am »
how long does it stay hot for? thought it would be cold in an hour or 2??

Michael Peterson

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 03:47:01 pm »
tank stays warm enough for water not to freeze in hoses from about 7 - 12 where it should have warmed up a bit anyways :-)

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 05:25:19 pm »
It's great to have the option of hot water esp in the winter. I have heard of windows cracking but it is rare, as long as you don't have the water too hot on really cold days you will be OK. I have the 9KW webasto heater fitted by pure freedom, although it's a good system, it was very expensive and your batteries take a big hit, they are also prone to coking up if used regularly in small bursts. I hardly use it in winter now as I bought 2 portable immersion heaters off ebay, total cost was about £30, I drop them in the tank overnight and in the morning I have a 650 litre tank of hot water, if you can get electricity to your van at home and you use a tank as opposed to containers I would highly recommend using these, it was Smudger on here that put a link up for them a while back, they were imported from China.

When you say overnight, how long are we talking about?. I have been thinking about this method myself, had actually been thinking about it this time last year, but we didn't really get that much cold weather!.

Also, how hot does the water need to be for you to need hot water hoses and fittings?, is there a certain temperature up to which you would be fine with normal stuff?
I usually put them in the tank after 9 o clock and take them out about 7 30 in the morning. I don't think you would need to change hose or fittings, but I work with backpacks so am not certain of this.

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2014, 05:36:48 pm »
how long does it stay hot for? thought it would be cold in an hour or 2??
It will stay warm til lunch time at the very least. Even at the end of the day the water will be warmer than it would be normally although not warm at brush head.

J.D

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2014, 05:44:49 pm »
Thanks KS

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2014, 08:01:40 pm »

DaveG

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sunshine windows

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2014, 08:13:05 pm »
How do you stop it burning the tank if it just dangles about in the water?
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
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KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 08:18:57 pm »
How do you stop it burning the tank if it just dangles about in the water?
You clunk them against the bottom of the tank then just pull the cable up three or four inches so you know they aren't touching the bottom of the tank whilst ensuring they are clear of the baffles.

Michael Peterson

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 01:16:38 pm »
For that amount of wattage would an extension real not overheat ?

KS Cleaning

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2014, 06:43:46 pm »
For that amount of wattage would an extension real not overheat ?
Yes, 2 on the same extension lead would, I should av said if you are using 2 like I do, you need to run an extension cable for each one. I am going to put 1 heater in tonight to see if this is sufficient to heat about 550 litres of water, of course it will be a bit different on a cold winters night when the ambient temperature is colder.

Pete Thompson

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Re: hot systems for winter
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 08:01:54 pm »
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For that amount of wattage would an extension real not overheat ?

That's an added bonus.  Just lay it along the path to your van and it will also keep the path frost free!

If you're feeling generous, lay it along a length of the pavement too, so your neighbors can also enjoy a few metres of frost-free pavement.

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