[matthewprice]

I like a high flow ,but I don't need the water flowing 20 feet from the brush  ,so iI use 4 2mm pencil jets  ,

[Peter Fogwill]

You wont have it flowing 20 feet from the brush, a sheet of glass will be in the way.

[matthewprice]

Whether you sit the brush on the glass or lift it off ,high flow 77 for me and 2 x 1mm jets the pressure causes a lot of spray ,as we don't power wash all you need is to get the water on to the glass in sufficient amount to wash the dirt off the glass ,less pressure more flow

[Ian Sheppard]

I personally don't think its that simple.

I like a high flow when rinsing as it saves water and time. Where I find I waste water is on the scrubbing and washing phase of the clean, especially if there is some stubborn dirt or dried bird poo.

I also think that there is a rinsing time difference between rinsing on the glass and off the glass. If you are confident of rinsing well without lifting then rinsing will be quicker. I also think that a blendy pole with more flex won't help toward a faster clean and rinse as will a heavy brush on the end of it.

On the other hand a heavy brush will clean a window quicker but will slow you down later as you expend more energy and get tired quicker.

In the early days we used Unger ali poles with heavy Vikan brushes, 1/2" garden hose, 3mm jets and no flow controller. By 2.30 in the afternoon I had used 375 litres in the trailer and an extra 100 litres of water on the van.

When we changed to minibore and a Varistream controller, the same Vikan brush but with 2mm jets, we worked slower due to a restricted rinsing flow, but at 3.00 on the same round we still had water on the trailer even although cleaning the same houses took a little longer. We did save time with easier hose management. Also, having 100 meters of hose meant that we could do more houses without moving the trailer.

I was able to work until 5.30 and still have water to spare. At the end of the day I had done more houses so earnt more even although each house took slightly longer.

What I would like is a 2 phase system that reduces water on the washing and scrubbing phase and increases it on the rinsing phase.

I also believe working smarter is a good way to work quicker, its more than just washing and rinsing a window. My son uses a backpack. His brush has 1.4mm jets. I hate them as rinsing is so slow, but he saves a lot of setup time. Doing houses he is quicker than I am as managing the hoses take a large portion of my cleaning time. However, that doesn't apply if he has a long run of windows on say a commercial clean. What took him 4 hours with his backpack takes me 1 1/2 hours with a hose and good flow.

   
We have developed a wash/rinse controller with radio remote. The control has a feature that allows you to set a higher flow rate. This flow rate can then be changed using the radio remote.

[Pro-Poler]

Don't buy in to this theory either that high flow reduces time, if anything it makes you rush the job and not be thorough, I rinse on the glass unless it's a new clean then it's pencils only, flocked brush and rinse off on full flow.
Only do sills on first time cleans although frames get done every time. I won't rinse on and clean sills as it takes dirt to the next window, if the customer complains about sills I tell them I'll do them now and again for extra money, I do check the sills now and again and they don't really get that dirty as the regular washing of the windows every month gives them a swill, surprising how clean they look once dry.

[mufcglen]

well ive been running 50-60 but today finally bothered to do the auto cal thing and as soon as i done it 50 was splashing off so turned it down to 40-43 max and thats been spot on for me with the setting c29 i think and also its not doing the pressure build up thing when i turn the flow tap back on!
much better now

[Frankybadboy]

don't need high flow to do a fast good job 

 

[Dave Willis]

Use a tap - no need for remote control doo dahs. want more water (phase 1)? then open it up, want less water (phase 2) then throttle it back, want no water (phase 3) then close it off. Why waste money on a simple expensive on/off Aquadapter, why fiddle about with remote controls - not needed.

[dazmond]

aqua daptor with a high flow.you can turn the flow down if needed using the AD when doing ground floor windows on say delicate wooden windows.

aqua daptor is brilliant for controlling water flow and quicker than using a tap on pole or pole hose IMO.

a high flow is essential if you want to splash and dash on regular work.

[Dave Willis]

How do you do that then?

[dazmond]

dave if you turn the wheel on the top end of the AD you can indeed reduce the flow a bit when needed.

[Dave Willis]

Didn't know that. Must be tricky at forty feet 

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I don't know what you all fanny about for, I have a water stop connector on the end of my microbore!!

[dazmond]

i dont at 40 ft dave!as i have a pole hose  tap on my 47 footer!

my aqua-daptor is on my main day to day 25 footer.i wouldnt be without it as it allows a very smooth control of water flow for me with minimum hassles.

[Mike #1]

Whether you sit the brush on the glass or lift it off ,high flow 77 for me and 2 x 1mm jets the pressure causes a lot of spray ,as we don't power wash all you need is to get the water on to the glass in sufficient amount to wash the dirt off the glass ,less pressure more flow

It is all about the flow rate 1mm jets allow me to work at at a lower flow rate but  giving the benefit of a higher flow rate thus saving wear and tear on the pump with less back up of pressure when in DE . Mike

[gary999]

Whether you sit the brush on the glass or lift it off ,high flow 77 for me and 2 x 1mm jets the pressure causes a lot of spray ,as we don't power wash all you need is to get the water on to the glass in sufficient amount to wash the dirt off the glass ,less pressure more flow

It is all about the flow rate 1mm jets allow me to work at at a lower flow rate but  giving the benefit of a higher flow rate thus saving wear and tear on the pump with less back up of pressure when in DE . Mike

If you dont mind me asking,where do you get your 1mm jets from?

[richard groves]

Whether you sit the brush on the glass or lift it off ,high flow 77 for me and 2 x 1mm jets the pressure causes a lot of spray ,as we don't power wash all you need is to get the water on to the glass in sufficient amount to wash the dirt off the glass ,less pressure more flow

It is all about the flow rate 1mm jets allow me to work at at a lower flow rate but  giving the benefit of a higher flow rate thus saving wear and tear on the pump with less back up of pressure when in DE . Mike

If you dont mind me asking,where do you get your 1mm jets from?

Clarkes welding tips from machine mart, pack of 5 are about £3-£4 , fit straight in to the jet holes on gardiner brushes perfect, use the threaded end in much the same way as you do a barb and screw the jet hose on to it.

I now however, use gardiners 1.4 mm (thought I would give them a go when I ordered a new brush) and prefer them.

[Pro-Poler]

Need high flow to do a good fast job