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PAUL JAMES

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Advice needed re shut off valve
« on: February 09, 2014, 08:39:15 pm »
To cut a long story short getting airlocks in the pump/system and cannot for the life of me work it out. Have tried everything and now been advised to put a shut off valve after my filter but not sure which one I need. Can you guys give me any pointers about which one to buy?
Cheers.

Paul.

bobplum

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 09:04:55 pm »
a shut off valve after the filter ...on the pump?


do you have a flat tank

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 09:07:02 pm »
Bob, thanks for the reply.
It is a flat tank and been advised to put the valve near/after the filter, before the pump.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 09:19:18 pm »
Bob, thanks for the reply.
It is a flat tank and been advised to put the valve near/after the filter, before the pump.


Did they mean a shut-off valve or a one-way valve?

bobplum

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 09:19:32 pm »
with flat tanks you tend to get more airlocks due to lack of gravity
It may be better to get your pump as low as as possible

i cant see how a shut off valve will help, what may help if you have some copper piping in the system, ie from the tank to the pump is place a air valve, the type you see in plumbing, a quick twist and the air escapes

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 09:22:25 pm »
Alex the chap said shut off valve. Do you recommend something else?I am just running out of ideas now to be honest.

bobplum

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 09:22:57 pm »
agree with Alex. i think there is a slight confusion here . a one way valve would help
If you have pics it may help

or another simple solution that may help is to tip the tank so the pressure of water is always to the valve end, making sure its secure

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 09:26:22 pm »
When you say your filter do you mean the pre-pump strainer? or  DI filter?

bobplum

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 09:28:11 pm »
my heads hurting.....good night ;D ;D

i think Pics would be the best answer so we all sure

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 09:28:33 pm »
Pre-pump strainer Alex.

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 09:29:38 pm »
Cheers Bob, if I don,t sort it tomorrow/Tuesday I will post some pictures.
 ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2014, 09:31:54 pm »
Also is your pump as low as it can be?

Have you checked the inlet connection on the pump - is it fitted with PTFE tape if using a screw thread fitting - this is the most common source of air leaks on a pump.

A photo would be great, although I would suspect the inlet to the pump. It will not leak water if faulty it will just suck air in causing pump issues.


PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 09:35:37 pm »
Re fitted PTFE tape this morning and although better it still needs bleeding between jobs. Once the pump is running it is fine. The thing is though that this has just started without warning. Been running fine for well over a year then hey presto - airlocks non stop. Will have a play again tomorrow and hopefully sort it.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2014, 09:40:52 pm »
Re fitted PTFE tape this morning and although better it still needs bleeding between jobs. Once the pump is running it is fine. The thing is though that this has just started without warning. Been running fine for well over a year then hey presto - airlocks non stop. Will have a play again tomorrow and hopefully sort it.

It is definitely sucking in air somewhere - I would doubt that a one-way valve would help this if it is the pump connection doing so. It could even be the pump housing is cracked and letting air in.

8weekly

Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2014, 09:42:02 pm »
A shut off valve between tank and pump I guess to stop the air lock reaching the pump when the water is low?

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2014, 09:44:57 pm »
It is a brand new pump put on today and still the same issue as the previous pump. Been going around in circles for a week now.
 ??? ??? ???

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2014, 09:50:27 pm »
It may be the strainer then. It would be worth running your set up without the strainer just to check.

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2014, 09:54:38 pm »
Alex, despite trying everything it hadn,t crossed my mind to do that. Thank you for the advice, will give that whirl tomorrow.

Don Kee

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2014, 10:23:38 pm »
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/large-tank-outlet-fittings-kit-p-484.html

Fit that as your tank outlet. When you move the van, switch pump off and turn the tap off on the outlet.
Its a non return valve so will stop the pump inlet drawing in air when you move your van and your waters low

PAUL JAMES

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Re: Advice needed re shut off valve
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2014, 04:31:11 pm »
Alex, tried your suggestion re removing the strainer and connecting direct and it worked a treat. Waiting for a new one coming so hopefully problem solved. Many thanks for the advice-very much appreciated.