About wrapping vehicle

« **on:** March 11, 2006, 01:51:33 pm »

I wonder whether it worth spending on full wrapping of your commercial.

I have bought a new Citroen Berlingo Multispace for my domestic cleaning business, it could be fully wrapped for under £1000 including VAT.

Has anybody here got a fully wrapped vehicle, do they think that the money was well spent. Any thoughts / comments.

Regards
Arthur

« **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2006, 02:42:55 pm »

Will you wrap it yourself or go to a shop and get them to wrap it for you?

If I was buying new I would expect it fully wrapped, but if it was second hand probably not. Clinton's do a good range, but they are expensive, not sure how long it would last either.

« **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2006, 02:53:57 pm »

Arthur

I would say £1000 + vat = £1175 is good value for money. Divide this by the length of time you keep the vehicle.

Lets say you keep it for Six years. = 312 weeks

£1175 divided by 312 weeks = £3.76 a week for advertising your business.

It's not bad Arthur, and better than a lot of advertising.

Dave

« **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2006, 03:03:36 pm »

Gary,
You cannot wrap it yourself, it is a skilled job (

just like cleaning

) you should be able to see here how its done. Wrapping guaranteed (I think) for about 4-5 years, I am not very sure for how long it actually lasts.

Dave,
The quote I have got is £800 plus VAT, so just under £1000 including VAT, but it is for Berlingo, which is small vehicle.

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2006, 03:27:56 pm »

Quote from: garyj on March 11, 2006, 02:42:55 pm

...If I was buying new I would expect it fully wrapped, but if it was second hand probably not...

Nice one, Gary

« **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2006, 03:34:24 pm »

arthur
thanks for that last post as didnt know what everyone was on about ! can you post where you can get this done in uk as thinking about getting ex post combo van about £3000 so if wraped will make no diffrence what the colour is so have a very presentable van for around £4000 in all what a cool idea
thanks
Tom

« **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2006, 03:54:48 pm »

Tom,

I am sure that there many companies where you live which would wrap your vehicle, just take a look at “sign writers” in the yellow pages. Company which is going to wrap my Citroen is in Northumberland T: 0845 1300 118.

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2006, 04:09:04 pm »

arthur
just thought it might be a bit more specialized than your average sign writers
thanks
Tom

« **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2006, 04:29:44 pm »

Tom,

You would be surprised how many “sign writers” advertise as companies which do vehicle wraps. You can also Google “vehicle wraps” and may find something locally. However, you got the phone number :

, I have nothing to hide

.

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2006, 05:32:17 pm »

Even better Arthur

Keep vehicle for six years

Cost £1000 divided by six years or 312 weeks = £3.21 a week on advertising.

Good value for money.

I think i would only do this if i was buying a new van though like you are.

Dave

« **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2006, 06:24:16 pm »

would make a used van look as good as new as well
no more scratches, no more chips, cover up the rust, you could have a bright shiny van for a couple of grand

« **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2006, 06:33:34 pm »

what about getting them off when its time to sell?

be a nightmare job! lol

« **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2006, 06:46:13 pm »

Quote from: craigp on March 11, 2006, 06:33:34 pm

what about getting them off when its time to sell?

be a nightmare job! lol

As I understand it would be quite simple job, they guarantee that paint will not suffer from the wrap.

I am going to wrap a passenger Berlingo, it is not a van. Passenger’s windows and the back window can be covered as well, so from outside you can see a part of the image placed on the window, but from inside of the car you would still be able to see through…

I have just not checked with my insurer whether wrapping increases my premium...

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2006, 07:28:04 pm »

Quote from: AJCleaningServices on March 11, 2006, 06:46:13 pm

...I have just not checked with my insurer whether wrapping increases my premium...

Contacted my insurance today - esure.com, they said that if I wrap my car they will not insure me…

Regards,

Arthur

« **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2006, 08:35:55 pm »

arthur
would have thought that esure.com don't insure commercial motors maybe wrapping it put's it in that bracket ! my truck was up for renewal the other week but my previous insurer was brought out by swinton's who were still by far the cheapest by nearly half although last year never touched commercial's so would try them if i were you ! i don't have there number but you know where to look !
Tom

« **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2006, 08:40:58 pm »

Hi Tom,
That is what I am doing now

, but all business insurers do not as late as I do

, so I will phone them tumorrow, tnx,
Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2006, 09:16:50 pm »

Maybe Esure think your GANGSTER WRAPPING your berlingo, they could be concerned that you going to BLING BLING it up and do drive by shootings?

How about magnetic signs for the doors,know it not as good as wrapping but cheaper and easily removed at the end of the day, if you don't want to see work parked on yourdriveway?

« **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2006, 09:48:08 pm »

Lol Paul,

I think for me having an eye catching car, driving it all day around the area which we are trying to take over

is the best way of advertising, so I will try to find an affordable insurance…

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2006, 03:36:48 pm »

you got a give it to the yanks!!

« **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2006, 10:49:47 pm »

Give this guy a ring for any quotation on Signs wrapping
Tony 0208 684 8888
he is inexpensive

« **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2006, 07:01:45 am »

So

The definitiom of Wrapping is poster style signing?

« **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2006, 11:10:28 pm »

Ian,
Iguess there is no definition for wrapping yet. Insurance companies do not know what the wrapping is, may be because the call centres are not in the UK anymore. I could only get insurance for wrapped car from egle star. very good price under £900

for all my insurances (motor, PL and EL).
Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2006, 06:45:29 pm »

surly it would not effect insurance,

its just sign written as far as there concerned. whats the difference

its just large signs.

« **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2006, 02:00:58 pm »

Quote from: garyj on March 11, 2006, 02:42:55 pm

Will you wrap it yourself or go to a shop and get them to wrap it for you?

If I was buying new I would expect it fully wrapped, but if it was second hand probably not. Clinton's do a good range, but they are expensive, not sure how long it would last either.

OMG! LOL How funny!!!

Stop it please! LOL

« **Reply #24 on:** March 18, 2006, 08:22:32 am »

Can't imagine wrapping would affect insurance..........it's only vinyl signwriting and doesn't affect the vehicles structure.

I'd have thought the definition was straightforward .........wrapping is just covering the outer surface with a light film of vinyl for the purpose of advertising products or services.

rob m

« **Reply #25 on:** March 18, 2006, 12:43:47 pm »

Quote from: AJCleaningServices on March 15, 2006, 11:10:28 pm

Ian,
Iguess there is no definition for wrapping yet. Insurance companies do not know what the wrapping is, may be because the call centres are not in the UK anymore. I could only get insurance for wrapped car from egle star. very good price under £900 for all my insurances (motor, PL and EL).
Regards,
Arthur

Eagle star are LIARS - over the phone they say one figure and put in the post a different one, much, much higher. Phoned to them today asking to confirm and they say that the quote which got by post is the quote I was given over the phone. Eagle star is a part of Zurich and I am not going to deal with those LIARS anymore.

« **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2006, 05:12:03 pm »

i would'nt even tell them its wrapped,

i would just say its sign written.

« **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2006, 11:29:56 pm »

I would have thought if anything a wrapped/written van should have a discount given on insurance as its less likely to be stolen if it stands out (just wish someone from the insurance industry would realise this!!!),i used to keep 2 escort vans in my drive, identical except colour(1 white, the other signal orange with reflective blue signing)over a 3 year period the white van suffered 5 break ins, all to the drivers door and went walkabout twice, the second time being found burned out, the orange van got broken into via the back door once and a gennie that id stupidly left in it walked,both vans had identical security and were left side by side every night with the white one nearer the house under a security light,a guy in a neighbouring village had a similar thing with a pair of transits, 1 ex rac in orange, the other ex bt in grey, the grey one had several break ins before going missing and the bright orange van wasnt touched,the only trouble being that when driving the orange van you had to be careful about sticking your fingers up at other drivers because it stuck out in the crowd

« **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2006, 05:48:04 pm »

I wasnt going to comment on this topic as I dont do sign writing or advertising at all but ....... The reason why insurance goes up on sign written vehicles is because it is a high risk vehicle. What makes it so is 2 things....1) you are advertising that there maybe something worth nicking inside and 2) to the scammers out there particularly in the U.S. it is an invite to get into an accident with because they think the sign written vehicle is or could be a big company and therefor a better chance of a good pay out..... sad but true....I enquired to have the inside of my van insured and the insurance company said under no terms would they insure the contents if the van was sign written.... Best, Dave.

« **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2006, 08:29:19 pm »

hsbc will insure contents regardless of sign writing or not. try them.

« **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:16:52 am »

thanks, where do I find them, best, Dave.

« **Reply #31 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:30:22 am »

Try this: http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/business/insurance
Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #32 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:18:58 pm »

Thanks Arthur..............but I got in touch with hsbc and they wont insure me regardless of sign writing or not......they referred me to Zurich and they wont either and lastly they said to try Anthony Jones and they dont do that type of insurance either. They did suggest if you have offices then sometimes the office insurance can cover goods in transit but that isnt of any use to me as I dont have an office. ............Graig if you know of any one at hsbc that can insure me please let me know but again they said they dont offer that type of insurance at all. Best, Dave.

« **Reply #33 on:** March 21, 2006, 05:38:41 pm »

Try this link: http://www.xbridge.co.uk/dorfq/businessinsurance/1.htm?tab=welcome
I got cheap PL and EL insurance from them :

Regards,
Arthur

« **Reply #34 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:51:14 pm »

Thanks Arthur I will try them too tomorrow, best, Dave.

« **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:57:34 pm »

hsbc quoted me for contents of van,as long as they were my own "tools of the trade", goods in transit tends to refer to goods being carried for profit, youd need to go through someone who specialises in commercial vehicle insurance if thats whats required, i told them the van was written (they didnt ask) and they said it doesnt make a difference,
Andy

« **Reply #36 on:** March 23, 2006, 10:12:03 pm »

Ok, I will try them again.

« **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2006, 06:49:06 pm »

McGergor Lloyd, Brimingham will insure your van truckmount portables ect and also do treatment risks, Details from the NCCA. Might seam pricy compared to others,, but they know our business inside out.
I had a claim and they were great.

« **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2006, 10:34:16 am »

Ok, I have got in touch with HSBC that dont cover what I need......Zurich that dont cover what I need.....Anthony Jones that dont cover what I need......McGregor Lloyd, they will cover the truck mount but NOT the portables of any type, air movers, wands, upholstery tools, portable hwe machines, floor machines, hoses, sprayers, tools, water softener, pumps, shall I go on. So again I ask, has anyone got contents insurance that covers contents, bolted down contents as well as loose contents. P.S. McGregor Lloyd will only cover the truck mount if they insure the van as well. Best, Dave.....The wands I have alone would cost 3200 to replace, by the time you add up all the measuring devices too I would end up at close to 5200.

« **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2006, 04:15:27 pm »

I brought my insurance as Ive said before through hsbc, public liability and treatment risk,they also definately gave me a written quotation for tools left in the van, which I didnt take as I have seperate insurance that covers them, strange beasts insurance companies, Andy

« **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2006, 05:39:55 pm »

Andy, who covers the contents?? You said you have a different policy for them. Best, Dave.....and you are right, they are a funny bunch....

« **Reply #41 on:** May 03, 2006, 07:10:34 pm »

Dave, my contents are covered through another policy I have through my other work, Im with Tradex,I dont know if they cover contents alone as both my vans are with them, might be worth a bell though, Andy

« **Reply #42 on:** May 27, 2006, 06:46:08 pm »

Although not a true wrap !!!

Still one of the best

« **Reply #43 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:00:18 pm »

We've just had our Concept 2o demo van wrapped. It certainly get's noticed and I'd recommend anyone to get it done. Over, say, 3 years it's very cheap and effective advertising.

Regards

Mike

« **Reply #44 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:46:54 am »

Hi Mike,
your van looks great! You must be very pleased, can you tell us how much it cost? Was the design done by the signwriter or a solus designer?
Thanks
Dave

« **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2006, 10:59:06 am »

Hi Dave

We can't take too much credit for it I'm afraid. It's concept 2o that's developed the branding. I'm sure the design would have been done by a marketing company separately to the signwriters. The wrap is part of an optional package which I would guess to be about £1500 on it's own. The company's actualy doing so many of these wraps now that they've now ordered the printing equipment to do it themselves (I forget the actual cost of the equipment now but I remember nearly falling over when they told me)

I would guess that you'd need to budget around £2000 for a 3/4 full colour van wrap including the artwork but then you can use full colour images (like the Prochem truckmounts) for much less.

At £2k, assuming just a 3 year life (and I'm sure it's a good 4 or 5 years in reality) it's the equivalent of £55 per month and it's working for you all day every day.

It's noticeable how much attention it gets when you're driving around in it. We obviously thinks it's money well spent.

Regards

Mike

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