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Whizz-Bizz

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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2014, 08:51:10 pm »
Ive knocked every kind of house you could imagine, Ive knocked Peter Crouches house, Shilpa Shettys, Eamon Holmes house. Even booked a four storey windmill a couple of weeks ago. Personally I prefer the little fronts, as fronts theres less messing around for the cleaner and its just a quick yes / no. Im only in a patch about a week and on the £30+ jobs you get more wrigglers and all the cleaners want there investment now now now.

Ill knock them as long as theres plenty on the patch and not like a mile apart.  

Getting there Mick + Crystal but did you really think the magic would just stop on Susans job ?  8)    
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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2014, 09:28:11 pm »
I like canvassing when its going well, but Ive had nights were Ive got in and put my head in my hands and just thought why oh why do this.

Pricing wise £1 a hole ish or £6 minimum front, with roofs I ask my self how long is it going to take ? 2 hours thats £50-£60 try and get £25-£30 an hour on those, if accessibility is hard maybe a bit more. Gutters £3 a meter for a clear £5 a meter clean and clear but I give them the option and advise them on best solution. I would never just say its £5 a meter to customers because it sounds more expensive that way.

I just say look Im going to give you 2 choices just a clear thats £20 ( lets say ) and if you want the fascias and soffits cleaned too thats £35. What do you want ?.

Thats how I do it      
Supposing, as in Mick Kent's case, a wc wanted £10 per front, or had a £15 minimum charge? Would you canvass on those terms? The prices on the low side to me.

Crystal-clear

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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2014, 09:46:17 pm »
Certainly not whizz the magic will live on and on customers will smile window cleaners will be rubbing there hands with Glee I'm sure Old Su will be over the moon with you !

Whizz-Bizz

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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2014, 09:48:25 pm »
If I could get away with it I would, the main problem is, what I do is a form of begging and I honestly think when your knocking you cant be overly greedy. Ring ins you can get away with murder. For example up North my £6 fronts ( 2 windows 1 door )I have to argue with customers to get them as they are being done whole houses for £7.

To be fair I think Im a solid performer but the cleaner has to be realistic in their expectations on whats humanly possible and for the money Im not going to change your life.  

You know how it works Crystal  ;D
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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #144 on: March 24, 2014, 12:06:45 am »
Yeah spoken very honest there  , the truth is andy canvassing is indeed gloryfied begging

if those £25 houses drop in they drop in end of the day you have to take what you realistically can

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2014, 07:37:25 pm »
well billy left us today on his travels and we have the results .....

I am not  going to tell you the figgers but we are very happy with what he left us and hes over stocked us some what as well

 after many  months of me putting every fence in his way , even calling him names on the fourms , trying my hardest to make him look like a cowboy he sat back and gave  us every answer , even laughing and saying to me a dare you to check me out ! so I did

 I even had a member of the family check his address to make sure it was a real house and not just a billing adderss  ;D this was done because I had a lot of trouble with someone else ...

I would tell anybody to use billy and we have already booked him again and it will be a rolling two times ayear for the next few years , weather toping up or starting out hes your man

so I ended up with egg on my face and hes a top guy and doesn't rip you off , my hubby will be one of his refs and we will answer txs and emails to new guys unlike the ones he uses now lol

I will post in 8 weeks to see if we still have most of the work he got which his out of his hands really and down to us to please the new custmers

well done mark oh and sorry xxx   ;)

8weekly

Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2014, 07:48:00 pm »
If I could get away with it I would, the main problem is, what I do is a form of begging and I honestly think when your knocking you cant be overly greedy. Ring ins you can get away with murder. For example up North my £6 fronts ( 2 windows 1 door )I have to argue with customers to get them as they are being done whole houses for £7.

To be fair I think Im a solid performer but the cleaner has to be realistic in their expectations on whats humanly possible and for the money Im not going to change your life.  

You know how it works Crystal  ;D
And I wonder whether there you have hit on something important about why some people make a great hourly rate and some don't. Canvassed work is underpriced and "begged" for. From the horse's mouth.

roundbuilder

Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2014, 08:51:43 pm »
If I could get away with it I would, the main problem is, what I do is a form of begging and I honestly think when your knocking you cant be overly greedy. Ring ins you can get away with murder. For example up North my £6 fronts ( 2 windows 1 door )I have to argue with customers to get them as they are being done whole houses for £7.

To be fair I think Im a solid performer but the cleaner has to be realistic in their expectations on whats humanly possible and for the money Im not going to change your life.  

You know how it works Crystal  ;D
And I wonder whether there you have hit on something important about why some people make a great hourly rate and some don't. Canvassed work is underpriced and "begged" for. From the horse's mouth.

Maybe for some but defo not the case for me.

Whizz-Bizz

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Re: Canvassing Exposed
« Reply #148 on: May 04, 2014, 06:14:56 pm »
well billy left us today on his travels and we have the results .....

I am not  going to tell you the figgers but we are very happy with what he left us and hes over stocked us some what as well

 after many  months of me putting every fence in his way , even calling him names on the fourms , trying my hardest to make him look like a cowboy he sat back and gave  us every answer , even laughing and saying to me a dare you to check me out ! so I did

 I even had a member of the family check his address to make sure it was a real house and not just a billing adderss  ;D this was done because I had a lot of trouble with someone else ...

I would tell anybody to use billy and we have already booked him again and it will be a rolling two times ayear for the next few years , weather toping up or starting out hes your man

so I ended up with egg on my face and hes a top guy and doesn't rip you off , my hubby will be one of his refs and we will answer txs and emails to new guys unlike the ones he uses now lol

I will post in 8 weeks to see if we still have most of the work he got which his out of his hands really and down to us to please the new custmers

well done mark oh and sorry xxx   ;)

Thanks for the references Susan as regards to 8 weeklys comments I think an average of £1.45 a window isnt under priced, and really if you think about it whether your knocking the door asking for work or selling conservatories, or likewise, you are begging. The way I do it is the fairest way for the cleaner, your getting a whole property but only paying the front price.
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