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Clever Forum Name

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 12:14:20 pm »
Once i get all my files from another forum i posted on i can answer these in more detail.

But basically i would look at 3 brushes.

Sill brush for fascias, conny roofs and urm sills ;)

Extreme medium mixed for regular cleaning.

Dual trim for first cleans not 4/5 or 6 weekly.

With those 3 brushes you can clean pretty much everything domestic wise.

I do however carry about 7 brushes, other vans carry more some less.

For instance the Gardiner hybrid brush. Black with blue bristles is epic on leaded windows. Very very very fast, doesnt rip lead and clean really well. yet for normal glass dont rate it:)

 

HampshireWindowCleaning

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 12:24:10 pm »
I used fibre glass Extel poles for 5 years until I bought a CLX22 last month, it's a lovely pole in comparison, very light and closed length is very short. But I must warn you that the clamps are very different to what you will be used to. I hated them at first but i've got used to them now, although I'd prefer if Gardiners would design a extel type clamp for their poles and give customers the option as to which style clamp they want.

H20cleaning

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 12:44:27 pm »
Thanks pure H20 im probs going with the every day brush as i have a conservatory and facias pole with correct brushes for them.

And i borrowed one of my uncles gardiners clx a while back and loved it but i see what you mean

clarkson

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 01:06:00 pm »
Hi
And remember to order some glue :(
John

Clever Forum Name

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 01:11:45 pm »
Thanks pure H20 im probs going with the every day brush as i have a conservatory and facias pole with correct brushes for them.

And i borrowed one of my uncles gardiners clx a while back and loved it but i see what you mean

I fully understand. My dad snapped an extreme section. His fault and it's £120 to replace :0 it's not cheap this stuff. I wince at buying new 18 extremes but they are awesome.

H20cleaning

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2013, 03:15:35 pm »
Hi
And remember to order some glue :(
John
what is the glue for lol?

Clever Forum Name

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2013, 03:21:22 pm »
Hi
And remember to order some glue :(
John
what is the glue for lol?

Gardiner clamps have a habit of coming loose. I am guessing.

H20cleaning

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2013, 03:25:35 pm »
I get unlimited supply of araldite that should do the trick im guessing?

home6442

Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2013, 06:21:28 pm »
Remember that the free brush and resi neck will have a quick loq socket which
are absolutely useless for anything other than a window thats straight in front off you.
No angle adjustment for the brush, removed mine after 2 hours.
Rubbish design.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2013, 09:50:17 pm »
Hi
And remember to order some glue :(
John

Do you have a problem that we can help with? or is this just general advice.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2013, 09:54:27 pm »
Remember that the free brush and resi neck will have a quick loq socket which
are absolutely useless for anything other than a window thats straight in front off you.
No angle adjustment for the brush, removed mine after 2 hours.
Rubbish design.

Hi John

Not quite sure what you have found to be a problem with the Quick-LoQ brush socket and window angles?

Generally speaking most window cleaners are working facing the window hence the socket being at a straight out angle (like most other brush sockets). For those that like to work at an angle and swivel the brush when needed we also do a swivel adjustable gooseneck - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/QuicK-LoQ-Resi-Neck-Type1-QUICK_LOQ_Swivel1.html

home6442

Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2013, 11:04:18 pm »
Hi Alex
At times its not possible to clean a window head on [ example would be a conservatory or extension where
the window can only be reached from the side ]
At this angle its impossible to get into the corner of the window without adjusting the brush.
With a threaded brush socket its just a matter of turning the brush slightly to whatever angle is needed.
Yes you could get a swivel adjustable gooseneck but why not give the guys who like using a brush with a
screw socket the choice.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2013, 08:40:08 am »
Hi Alex
At times its not possible to clean a window head on [ example would be a conservatory or extension where
the window can only be reached from the side ]
At this angle its impossible to get into the corner of the window without adjusting the brush.
With a threaded brush socket its just a matter of turning the brush slightly to whatever angle is needed.
Yes you could get a swivel adjustable gooseneck but why not give the guys who like using a brush with a
screw socket the choice.


Hi John

I must admit that not many users work in this way. However if you do need to then we do supply all brushes with the choice of screw-on socket and also we supply the gooseneck with the screw-on shaft still. If buying a new pole then when ordering over the phone please let the Sales Advisor know that you would like these items instead of the Quick-LoQ system.

home6442

Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2013, 09:19:55 am »
Alex not trying to be rude but if you can point out to me how I can get at a window which
is above a long extension other than from the side I will be happy to listen and learn.
If you are reaching the window at a 45 degree angle from the side then you are not going to be
getting into a 90 degree corner if the brush is fixed.
I do a number of properties that have porches to the front with a window above, even with a 100ft pole
I couldn't get at them from the front.
It just the way they are shaped.
Cant believe that nobody else has come across this problem.   

Clever Forum Name

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2013, 09:23:43 am »
i THINK i see where john is coming from, but i think usuing a sill brush sorts this issue out. As the bristles 100% find the corner. I clean windows that i cannot see but i know the brush is on the glass and its cleaned them fine. I know they clean em fine as its my house ;)

Alex Gardiner

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2013, 09:28:40 am »
Alex not trying to be rude but if you can point out to me how I can get at a window which
is above a long extension other than from the side I will be happy to listen and learn.
If you are reaching the window at a 45 degree angle from the side then you are not going to be
getting into a 90 degree corner if the brush is fixed.
I do a number of properties that have porches to the front with a window above, even with a 100ft pole
I couldn't get at them from the front.
It just the way they are shaped.
Cant believe that nobody else has come across this problem.  

Hi John

I believe you when you say you are not trying to be rude  :)

Most clients who want to keep the brush completely flat on the glass surface in this situation would use a swivel neck - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/QuicK-LoQ-Resi-Neck-Type1-QUICK_LOQ_Swivel1.html

For myself I prefer using the fixed carbon gooseneck. In this case I would just use one corner of the brush into the corner (angling the rest of the brush body away from the glass) and then use the brush at an angle across the window. Works well with practice and means that the brush is ideally fixed for the majority of the work carried out.

jonboywalton75

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2013, 09:41:55 am »
Good  answer Alex.
Swivels work fie on these type of windows for me,  also the call brush helps immensely.

DeLuce

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2013, 10:59:26 am »


For myself I prefer using the fixed carbon gooseneck. In this case I would just use one corner of the brush into the corner (angling the rest of the brush body away from the glass) and then use the brush at an angle across the window. Works well with practice and means that the brush is ideally fixed for the majority of the work carried out.
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I love the carbon gooseneck combination. This is how I deal with awkward angles over conny roofs or extensions. Just twist the brush away at an angle from the glass and the corner bristles make contact with the glass in the 90°corners, get the rest at an angle, job done. I use the Xtreme medium mixed brush, great combo. Just needs a bit of practice.

Mike #1

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2013, 07:59:42 pm »
Hi Alex
At times its not possible to clean a window head on [ example would be a conservatory or extension where
the window can only be reached from the side ]
At this angle its impossible to get into the corner of the window without adjusting the brush.
With a threaded brush socket its just a matter of turning the brush slightly to whatever angle is needed.
Yes you could get a swivel adjustable gooseneck but why not give the guys who like using a brush with a
screw socket the choice.






After using WFP for over 5 yrs i have never had to change the angle of a brush to clean a window from the side above a porch or conny . Mike

windowswashed

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Re: need some advice with gardiners poles...
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2013, 08:33:38 pm »
what's the benefits of using a carbon gooseneck over a plastic swivel with an extension attached for deep sill windows????

I'm interested in the benefits but can only think of the disadvantages of a fixed angled long reach carbon gooseneck!!