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stuart mc

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 10:02:02 pm »
what is your tds?
102

really :o that is high stirling is like 26, mine is about 45, you are not that far away :-\
Aye, it's a wee bit higher than a wis expectin it to be, maybe ma meters on the blink. a find it hard to get an accurate reading on running water but in still water it's 102..... On a side note do you know anythin about Falkirk juniors, we play them in 3 weeks time

naw sorry, I didn't even know there was a Falkirk juniors ;D I will ask about though, camelon juniors yes but not falkirk

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 10:49:15 pm »
Hi Alex, the filter has the black ends so must be the CFBC one. I done the test you suggested and it took 14 seconds to fill 2 litres with the fibredyde filter and 11 seconds with the standard filters. You asked the question " what is the flow rate with 'BOTH' CFBC filters fitted" I only have one,  isn't it recommended to use only one of these filters?

Thank you for this. This works out at 8.5 lpm with the CFBC and 10.9lpm for the standard set-up.

I will have to check the specification charts and see if this drop is within the standard parameters.

When I said both I meant comparing both the standard and the Fibredyne - You are correct only one is needed.
Thanks Alex, could you tell me what the lpm would be with the CFB-plus, based on the figures I have given you. Would I be right in saying the CFB-plus filters wouldn't have been available when I purchased my filter in May?

dave0123

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 10:54:22 pm »
Are these filters not up to job then or what? seems to be a lot of people having trouble with these. Ive got the plus one 10 inch bought from GAPS water its ok at the moment but i haven't put  a lot of water through it as yet.
Dave.

oliver collins

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 10:58:03 pm »
Hi
 I have always put a booster pump after the prefilters but before the .ro membranes is this what everyone does seems to get best flow rates

Oliver Collins

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 11:28:17 pm »
what is your tds?
102

really :o that is high stirling is like 26, mine is about 45, you are not that far away :-\
Aye, it's a wee bit higher than a wis expectin it to be, maybe ma meters on the blink. a find it hard to get an accurate reading on running water but in still water it's 102..... On a side note do you know anythin about Falkirk juniors, we play them in 3 weeks time

naw sorry, I didn't even know there was a Falkirk juniors ;D I will ask about though, camelon juniors yes but not falkirk
Think they started up last season but played out of Grangemouth. Dinny mention Camelon to me, they knocked us out the Scottish last season :'(

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2013, 11:29:16 pm »
Hi
 I have always put a booster pump after the prefilters but before the .ro membranes is this what everyone does seems to get best flow rates

Oliver Collins
Aye that's how mine is set up

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2013, 11:30:51 pm »
Are these filters not up to job then or what? seems to be a lot of people having trouble with these. Ive got the plus one 10 inch bought from GAPS water its ok at the moment but i haven't put  a lot of water through it as yet.
Time will tell, in my case it is just a problem with slower production as I use a booster pump

rah

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2013, 06:27:17 am »
I tried a Fibredyne, Just  binned it & now sticking to the cheap 5 micron white filters, changing weekly or sooner if required.

Your filter is starting to clog! which will eventually result in zero feed to the r/o as I found out recently. When investigating, we removed to feed to the membrane and almost completely black water was visible! I don't believe me produced more than 15k from it.

When purchasing the new membrane, i was chatting about the filter to the company i bought from, they did believe the stated figures and warned to be cautious, guess they knew something.

I'm now running at great production rates of 1000lt - 6/8 hrs.

Can I ask you how long the Fibredyne filter had been in when it started producing black water?  :o
And was you using the CFBC FILTER or the CFB-PLUS FILTER?


To clarify,

NO black water got to the R/O, the water was visible when we removed to water feed to the R/O, but it was visibly black/ very dark grey. No damage appears to have occurred to the membrane as it's giving me 001 before resin.

Rob
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .

andyM

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2013, 06:43:20 am »
I tried a Fibredyne, Just  binned it & now sticking to the cheap 5 micron white filters, changing weekly or sooner if required.

Your filter is starting to clog! which will eventually result in zero feed to the r/o as I found out recently. When investigating, we removed to feed to the membrane and almost completely black water was visible! I don't believe me produced more than 15k from it.

When purchasing the new membrane, i was chatting about the filter to the company i bought from, they did believe the stated figures and warned to be cautious, guess they knew something.

I'm now running at great production rates of 1000lt - 6/8 hrs.

Can I ask you how long the Fibredyne filter had been in when it started producing black water?  :o
And was you using the CFBC FILTER or the CFB-PLUS FILTER?


To clarify,

NO black water got to the R/O, the water was visible when we removed to water feed to the R/O, but it was visibly black/ very dark grey. No damage appears to have occurred to the membrane as it's giving me 001 before resin.

Rob

That sounds really unusual Rob.
The only time I've ever seen greyish water come out of a pre-filter was very briefly when flushing through a new pre-filter set, as recommended by manufacturer before connecting to membrane.
I've only been using a fibredyne filter set-up since the beginning of August.
It's the CFB-PLUS FILTER that I am using from Gaps Water Treatment.
I did a new filter change on Monday of this week after using the filter for approximately 7 weeks. There were no problems to report with regard to a drop in production rates and the pressure gauges were still reading the same as when the filter was new. I am planning on changing the filter every 6-8 weeks mainly to try and minimise the risk of chlorine damaging the membrane.
As I say the used pre-filter I removed after 7 weeks seemed fine, a visible inspection showed no discolouration/staining or signs of the filter perishing/breaking down.
The new pre-filter was flushed through for 5 minutes first as recommended by the manufacturers instructions. The water came out clear with no signs of discoloured water.
So far everything with regard to the fibredyne filter set-up im using seems to be working as it should.  
ps. For reference the pre-filter I am using is the Pentek CFB-PLUS 10 Carbon/Fiber Block Filter Cartridge  
One of the Plebs

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2013, 08:28:13 am »
Hi Alex, the filter has the black ends so must be the CFBC one. I done the test you suggested and it took 14 seconds to fill 2 litres with the fibredyde filter and 11 seconds with the standard filters. You asked the question " what is the flow rate with 'BOTH' CFBC filters fitted" I only have one,  isn't it recommended to use only one of these filters?

Thank you for this. This works out at 8.5 lpm with the CFBC and 10.9lpm for the standard set-up.

I will have to check the specification charts and see if this drop is within the standard parameters.

When I said both I meant comparing both the standard and the Fibredyne - You are correct only one is needed.
Thanks Alex, could you tell me what the lpm would be with the CFB-plus, based on the figures I have given you. Would I be right in saying the CFB-plus filters wouldn't have been available when I purchased my filter in May?

The flow rates of the CFB-Plus are higher, and you should expect to see a drop of only 5-10% from maximum. These were not available through us at the time you bought this one.

I have sent your case details on to the manufacturers representative in this country. They are sending out a replacement filter for you to try out in your system so that you can report back any changes that this may make.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2013, 08:47:33 am »
Hi Alex, the filter has the black ends so must be the CFBC one. I done the test you suggested and it took 14 seconds to fill 2 litres with the fibredyde filter and 11 seconds with the standard filters. You asked the question " what is the flow rate with 'BOTH' CFBC filters fitted" I only have one,  isn't it recommended to use only one of these filters?

Thank you for this. This works out at 8.5 lpm with the CFBC and 10.9lpm for the standard set-up.

I will have to check the specification charts and see if this drop is within the standard parameters.

When I said both I meant comparing both the standard and the Fibredyne - You are correct only one is needed.
Thanks Alex, could you tell me what the lpm would be with the CFB-plus, based on the figures I have given you. Would I be right in saying the CFB-plus filters wouldn't have been available when I purchased my filter in May?

The flow rates of the CFB-Plus are higher, and you should expect to see a drop of only 5-10% from maximum. These were not available through us at the time you bought this one.

I have sent your case details on to the manufacturers representative in this country. They are sending out a replacement filter for you to try out in your system so that you can report back any changes that this may make.
Hi Alex, that is much appreciated, you really do go the extra mile. With me using a booster pump would I not be better with the CFB-Plus to maximise production?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2013, 09:13:03 am »
You may well be but let's try the other type of filter they are sending out as this is another version entirely (still Fibredyne).  But for future use the CFB-Plus would be what I would recommend.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2013, 10:38:30 am »
You may well be but let's try the other type of filter they are sending out as this is another version entirely (still Fibredyne).  But for future use the CFB-Plus would be what I would recommend.
God stuff Alex, many thanks.

dave0123

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2013, 11:56:24 am »
Quote
That sounds really unusual Rob.
The only time I've ever seen greyish water come out of a pre-filter was very briefly when flushing through a new pre-filter set, as recommended by manufacturer before connecting to membrane.
I've only been using a fibredyne filter set-up since the beginning of August.
It's the CFB-PLUS FILTER that I am using from Gaps Water Treatment.
I did a new filter change on Monday of this week after using the filter for approximately 7 weeks. There were no problems to report with regard to a drop in production rates and the pressure gauges were still reading the same as when the filter was new. I am planning on changing the filter every 6-8 weeks mainly to try and minimise the risk of chlorine damaging the membrane.
As I say the used pre-filter I removed after 7 weeks seemed fine, a visible inspection showed no discolouration/staining or signs of the filter perishing/breaking down.
The new pre-filter was flushed through for 5 minutes first as recommended by the manufacturers instructions. The water came out clear with no signs of discoloured water.
So far everything with regard to the fibredyne filter set-up im using seems to be working as it should. 
ps. For reference the pre-filter I am using is the Pentek CFB-PLUS 10 Carbon/Fiber Block Filter Cartridge


I am using the same one from the same supplier as you too (GAPS) ive had no problems or drops in pressure all seems to be ok. I will be also replacing the filter more often though it for the cost of them £11.00 i think its a good idea to replace more regularly cant do no harm
Dave.

andyM

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2013, 12:32:37 pm »
Quote
That sounds really unusual Rob.
The only time I've ever seen greyish water come out of a pre-filter was very briefly when flushing through a new pre-filter set, as recommended by manufacturer before connecting to membrane.
I've only been using a fibredyne filter set-up since the beginning of August.
It's the CFB-PLUS FILTER that I am using from Gaps Water Treatment.
I did a new filter change on Monday of this week after using the filter for approximately 7 weeks. There were no problems to report with regard to a drop in production rates and the pressure gauges were still reading the same as when the filter was new. I am planning on changing the filter every 6-8 weeks mainly to try and minimise the risk of chlorine damaging the membrane.
As I say the used pre-filter I removed after 7 weeks seemed fine, a visible inspection showed no discolouration/staining or signs of the filter perishing/breaking down.
The new pre-filter was flushed through for 5 minutes first as recommended by the manufacturers instructions. The water came out clear with no signs of discoloured water.
So far everything with regard to the fibredyne filter set-up im using seems to be working as it should. 
ps. For reference the pre-filter I am using is the Pentek CFB-PLUS 10 Carbon/Fiber Block Filter Cartridge


I am using the same one from the same supplier as you too (GAPS) ive had no problems or drops in pressure all seems to be ok. I will be also replacing the filter more often though it for the cost of them £11.00 i think its a good idea to replace more regularly cant do no harm

The postage with Gaps seems a bit steep if just buying 1 filter.
So I ordered 4 filters to make it worthwhile.
One of the Plebs

ray mck

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2013, 01:27:29 pm »
can anyone make a video of this , i have 3 filters then the di.so just one of the new ones then the di.do i get rid of the other emtpy ones or just let them fill up with water.? :P :P :'(

DeLuce

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2013, 03:23:11 pm »
You can just let them fill up with water, or, you can take them off. If you have recently fitted the filter, I would keep them on just in case you have any issues. For example, you may live in a sediment rich water area and the filter may clog more rapidly, therefore, you may need to put in a sediment pre filter to slow this process down. My area water was so sediment rich that I had to revert back to my normal 3xprefilters because the Fibradine couldn't cope, even after I fitted a sediment filter.

ray mck

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2013, 09:33:51 pm »
i think your write this single filter  not working for me, back to the 3 filters i think.anybody else going back to the old filters.

DeLuce

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2013, 10:23:30 pm »
If your flow goes to a trickle and the ro is just not producing even half as much as it used to in 4-6wks of installing the Fibradine filter, chances are, the filter is getting clogged with sediment. Therefore, no good in your area.

rah

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Re: Fibredyne filter
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2013, 05:56:10 am »
Nic,

I can't answer how unusual it may be, this was the first and last time I'll use one!

I had flushed it for a good while before connecting and I was running a sediment filter before it as well. The filter is now on a journey back to the supplier to be analised, so hopefully we'll hear something from them, which will be interesting as my set-up is 10 yrs + old and never had a problem before.  My problem with the filter started after a cpl of weeks.

I don't believe I live in a rich sediment area, my tap water is  around 130ppm.

I was using the cfb plus filter, I've now purchased 25 sed and 25 block carbon for £83 quid delivered, so not convinced that the fibredyne will offer a saving, but time will tell ;)

Rob.
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .