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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 05:30:01 am »
I thought it was just me . Seems not . It really did my head in yesterday..

Dave Willis

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2013, 07:25:55 am »
Loctite on the threads.  ::)roll

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2013, 07:38:45 am »
What do you mean dave

Dave Willis

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2013, 07:42:48 am »
Dab of loctite on the threads where the bolt goes through the barrel nut. Metal nuts and bolt now. If the clamp is tensioned properly the spring under the bolt head should take up any slack. Shouldn't need to alter the setting very often, only when the pole wears.

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 07:45:40 am »
Will try that tonight . Cheers dave . But it's something you shouldn't have to do

Dave Willis

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 07:49:54 am »
I expect Alex will pop up soon to give the proper technique, but these clamps are designed to virtually eliminate the constant adjustment. Unless of course your pole is completely knackered perhaps.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2013, 07:52:18 am »
I've been using a  new slx 25 . Only for 2 days. But I do have a gripe . I have to tighten the barrell every 20 minutes . I find as I extend and close the pole it loosens it .more the top section as that gets extended most .it loosens that much so the section spins then I have to tighten it up again . I will give it a couple more days , see if I can Suss it out . Does anyone else have this problem . Cheers barry

The is strange Barry - the whole point of these clamps is that they do not need regular adjustment. The bolts have a nylock coating on them so that they grip the metal barrel nut and stay in position. They should not need any extra thread-lock applying.

Can I ask that you start from fresh and set each clamp up to the right tension. Basically this means that you will need to adjust each clamp so that it just holds the section below it with out spinning and then tighten the bolt cap by another 360degrees (one full turn). The mechanism in the clamp will prevent this from being over-tight.

Try this out and see if it makes a difference during the day. If this doesn't then I may have to look at replacing the bolts on the clamps for you.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2013, 07:53:27 am »
Im not convinced im forever having to tighten mine up.
I have to tighten them on every other house. :(

Is this on a new pole? When was it purchased or upgraded? If it is an upgrade can you email me a photo of the pole with the clamps fitted.

dazmond

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2013, 07:56:09 am »
used all my poles yesterday for the first time with new clamps on.i didnt have any nuts coming loose(apart from the one rolling around in my head!) ;D ;D ;D ;D

i love em!nice tight grip no matter where i clamp on my poles.my 2 year old SLX is like new again!!well done alex!

its great that i can clamp poles fully closed again without spinning! :D :D
price higher/work harder!

Ronnie Bryce

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2013, 07:57:31 am »
Mine come slack every few minutes as well, would be good to know if it's user error.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2013, 08:03:50 am »
Mine come slack every few minutes as well, would be good to know if it's user error.

It may be that the clamps need tightening slightly more for the initial set-up as described above.

8weekly

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2013, 12:20:48 pm »
I get one or two slackening a couple of times a day. It is not a biggie really. I am more concerned that the gap in clamps is nearly meeting on one section. Perhaps I should have cut the top off of the sections?

Cliff perkins

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2013, 03:59:59 pm »
hi alex its on my old slx25 i got the upgrade kit.
i fitted the clamps with the glue that it came with and it never set,i phoned your office and they said it was my fault as i didnt fit them correctly.
so i took all the clamps of and sanded the glue of the poles and re applied some araldite that i got from homebase the 2 part mix stuff.
the clamps stuck much better but they are forever comming loose.
i put extra glue on the clamps to make sure they stuck well.
i will upload a pic on here,not a pretty job but as i said i put more glue on as i didnt want them comming undone.
cheers cliff
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Cliff perkins

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2013, 05:05:52 pm »
Www.1stglasswindowcleaning.co.uk

Cliff perkins

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2013, 05:07:42 pm »
Www.1stglasswindowcleaning.co.uk

Cliff perkins

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2013, 05:09:52 pm »

only took me an hour to get it on here from my imac not bad ay
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8weekly

Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2013, 05:32:57 pm »
My glue didn't set either Cliff. I just used some b&q epoxy which seems ok, butI have a CLX. They said it was my fault with the glue as well. Not sure tbh as I mixed it pretty thoroughly I thought, but it never set hard.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2013, 06:07:44 pm »
hi alex its on my old slx25 i got the upgrade kit.
i fitted the clamps with the glue that it came with and it never set,i phoned your office and they said it was my fault as i didnt fit them correctly.
so i took all the clamps of and sanded the glue of the poles and re applied some araldite that i got from homebase the 2 part mix stuff.
the clamps stuck much better but they are forever comming loose.
i put extra glue on the clamps to make sure they stuck well.
i will upload a pic on here,not a pretty job but as i said i put more glue on as i didnt want them comming undone.
cheers cliff

Glad you have got them fitted now.

If the glue does not set it simply means that the two halves of the pouch (clear and black) have not mixed properly. They do need mixing well so that no clear hardener remains - not specifically your fault, but just not mixed enough. When mixed well the glue hardens off within 5-10 minutes depending on ambient temperature, so does need to be applied swiftly.

With regard to your adjustment issue could you try the following steps:

Start from fresh and set each clamp up to the right tension. Basically this means that you will need to adjust each clamp so that it just holds the section below it with out spinning and then tighten the bolt cap by another 360degrees (one full turn). The mechanism in the clamp will prevent this from being over-tight.

See if this sorts this out, if it does not please email on alex@agardiner.co.uk and we can get this sorted for you as this is not a usual user issue.

Michael Peterson

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2013, 06:44:04 pm »
i like the pink and green glue you sell quality stuff

Lee GLS

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Re: so gardiner smart clamps?verdict?
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2013, 06:45:29 pm »
I have found that after using the pole for over a month that the screw does work loose more, if I start the day with them set up properly, by lunch the top 2 section clamps have started to flop and need the screw nipping up.