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David Salkeld

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Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« on: May 23, 2013, 07:05:16 pm »
Not being clever but...

I use a standard Asda Indoor broom head.  Fit my own jets and costs about a fiver.
OK, maybe they don't last quite as long as the £30 brushes do.  I get about 4 months out of one and I have been told a, for example, Gardiner brush lasts about a year.
My brushes are much lighter than even a "Super Light".
My brushes do a good job too.

Please don't think I am saying you're all idiots, just wondering if there is anyone who has done as I do and changed to "Proper" brushes and what their reasons are?
I, personally haven't found a reason to change

Thanks
David
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roundbuilder

Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 07:09:39 pm »
The only reason i use gardiner and other supplier brushes is because im lazy to make my own plus i like to have the best equipment i can afford for the job

deeege

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 07:10:46 pm »
Care to show us some pics of your DIY brushes?
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ascjim

Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 07:11:06 pm »
I've been using my current £25.00 Boardex brush for 3 years ;)

Dave Willis

Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 07:14:41 pm »
I started with diy bentley brushes then progressed to Gardiners Bentley brushes 'cos I couldn't be bothered to fit the jets.
They worked ok but didn't last long and didn't look very professional but they did the job.

As i earned more and more money it just seemed the sensible thing to do - buy specific brushes designed for the job ie. Gardiners again. Same with poles too.

David Salkeld

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 07:15:50 pm »
The only reason i use gardiner and other supplier brushes is because im lazy to make my own plus i like to have the best equipment i can afford for the job

Thought that most people don't want to bother messing around making brushes.  Must admit mine sometimes last longer than they should due to "Can't be arsed  ::)roll"

As for best equipment....Totally agree....that's why I, eventually bought a Gardiner SLX and through out the fishing pole ;)
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andyM

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 07:16:30 pm »
I buy my brushes because when I finish my working day and at weekends I like to shut-off from window cleaning (and sit at the computer on a window cleaning forum!).  :P
Nowadays good quality equipment is easily available to buy, and £30 for a brush is peanuts considering the amount of work it will do.
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David Salkeld

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 07:17:54 pm »
Care to show us some pics of your DIY brushes?

Yer I tried, but how do you post a pic?

I think the Jpeg files I have are too big?

Ta
David
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Dave Willis

Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 07:18:41 pm »
When I started I was using £30 poles. I'll happily part with £700 for a pole these days and not worry too much. The bigger your business grows, the less you can be arsed to diy.

andyM

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 07:22:23 pm »
When I started I was using £30 poles. I'll happily part with £700 for a pole these days and not worry too much. The bigger your business grows, the less you can be arsed to diy.

Very true.
I've diy'd Harris poles, Gangster modular pole etc etc. over the years.
With the quality of equipment that's available today there is no need to diy.
Plus I can't be bothered, even re-filling the resin vessel is a chore these days to me.
Even if I bought a new £300+ carbon pole every 12 months it would be worth the money because of the amount of work that can be done with it.
 
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David Salkeld

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 07:32:19 pm »
I've been using my current £25.00 Boardex brush for 3 years ;)

Just checked out the Brodex Brushes, not bad price.
Are they light?
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Llaaww

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 07:50:29 pm »
I've been using my current £25.00 Boardex brush for 3 years ;)

Just checked out the Brodex Brushes, not bad price.
Are they light?

no
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DG Cleaning

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 08:31:58 pm »
I thought I was the tightest one on here and even I don't diy a brush.
Extend2wash do them for about about £12

David Salkeld

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 09:04:06 pm »

I see your point lads but I have 2 reasons why I will still DIY mine.......

1. Cost - £30 will get me 10 brushes from Asda (OK then there's the tube, T peice and jets)
2. Light as a feather - I borrowed a Superlight of a mate.........soon as I picked it up I gave it straight back....much heavier.

The one reason why I was asking and looking for a Proper brush was because, like most of you, I don't want to spend time making brushes.

Thanks
David
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Alex Gardiner

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 09:15:21 pm »

I see your point lads but I have 2 reasons why I will still DIY mine.......

1. Cost - £30 will get me 10 brushes from Asda (OK then there's the tube, T peice and jets)
2. Light as a feather - I borrowed a Superlight of a mate.........soon as I picked it up I gave it straight back....much heavier.

The one reason why I was asking and looking for a Proper brush was because, like most of you, I don't want to spend time making brushes.

Thanks
David

Depends of course which Super-lite you were trying.

As far as I can remember the Bentley brushes were about 215g (correct me if I have remembered wrong). The standard  Super-Lite brush is about 250g plus socket. and the Super-Lite Sill brush is about 225g. However the Xtreme brush (which in my opinion, having used both, is far better than the Bentley) is only 165g which is a good bit lighter than the Bentley.

We have a new range of Xtreme brushes coming out that will be even lighter at about half the weight of the Bentley (105-110g)

Of course if the Bentleys work for you why not - cheap, easy to get hold of and lightweight.

Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2013, 10:43:22 pm »
Dear David. This is a site for professional window cleaners, operating in this century. Why should one hanker after the past years. Maybe the time has arrived to move into the 21 century. I would at a guess expect you to be on horse back as its a lot cheaper that diesel.  ??? ??? ??? ???

PoleKing

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2013, 11:11:08 pm »
It's was only half way through this thread I realised the OP was for real!
Homemade brushes?! OMFG. If you can't afford a brush then you'd probably be better off employed.
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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2013, 11:19:19 pm »
It's was only half way through this thread I realised the OP was for real!
Homemade brushes?! OMFG. If you can't afford a brush then you'd probably be better off employed.

So why does a brush from a company work better then a home made brush? It's not always a question of being able to afford something or not.

I've got an aldi special I use quite often for windows above conservatories etc. It's far lighter than any commercial wfp brush, cost me 99p and it works fine.

For most windows I use the red Vikan brush. It weighs a ton but I prefer the shape of it. If Gardiners did a brush that shape and it was lighter than the Vikan, I'd use that instead. Likewise for Lidl's, Aldi or any shop, if they did what I want, I'd buy it there.
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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2013, 11:31:46 pm »
Dear David. This is a site for professional window cleaners, operating in this century. Why should one hanker after the past years. Maybe the time has arrived to move into the 21 century. I would at a guess expect you to be on horse back as its a lot cheaper that diesel.  ??? ??? ??? ???

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Mike #1

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Re: Why do you spend £30ish on a brush
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 06:10:46 am »
Because their aint nothing better than a Gardiners Xtreme brush . Mike