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Roger Oakley

Wood Orbiter
« on: April 08, 2013, 01:17:36 pm »
Anyone used the Wood Orbiter from Osmo?
If yes any good?

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 01:41:28 pm »
Looks like a Truvox, great idea if you do a lot of decks or could do potentially

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 01:48:16 pm »
Looks like a Truvox, great idea if you do a lot of decks or could do potentially

Terry

We do, do loads of decking Terry, and that was my thoughts, looks good, but does it work?

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 11:12:23 pm »
I have a lot of decking at home & was thinking of using my truvox multiwash which is the same as the Osmo, will have to give it a try.
Has anyone used their cleaning product Osmo Wood Reviver 'Power Gel'
is it any good,

Also is their decking oil any good, if so which one?

Andrew

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 08:52:11 am »
You sparked my interest so I rang Osmo and spoke to a salesman. The machine costs around £2000 (don't know how that compares to a Truvox similiarly equipped) but they rent it out at around £200 per day. If you just want to clean the deck you use a product called wash care, if it is very grey and tired looking you use wood reviver gel. According to the salesman (!) the results are genuinely impressive (in fairness the guy I spoke to was the least push salesperson ever). If doing the latter process you would of course be re coating the deck in an Osmo product. 
I asked if they had any trining courses lined up but unfortunately they don't at the moment.

I think it comes down to how many decks do you get and would those people pay a decent rate to ame it worthwhile after machine cost and chemical and coating cost, my gut feeling is that the results will be everything they say they are and no I don't have any link at all to osmo LOL
Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 03:18:12 pm »
You sparked my interest so I rang Osmo and spoke to a salesman. The machine costs around £2000 (don't know how that compares to a Truvox similiarly equipped) but they rent it out at around £200 per day. If you just want to clean the deck you use a product called wash care, if it is very grey and tired looking you use wood reviver gel. According to the salesman (!) the results are genuinely impressive (in fairness the guy I spoke to was the least push salesperson ever). If doing the latter process you would of course be re coating the deck in an Osmo product. 
I asked if they had any trining courses lined up but unfortunately they don't at the moment.

I think it comes down to how many decks do you get and would those people pay a decent rate to ame it worthwhile after machine cost and chemical and coating cost, my gut feeling is that the results will be everything they say they are and no I don't have any link at all to osmo LOL
Terry

Hello Terry,

I also spoke to Osmo yesterday a couple of times, was actually offered a machine at a better rate then that  :) plus I needed to know a few technical details of the machine, and yes no big says push and very helpful, in fact all the details I wanted have been emailed over today.
I most probably wouldn't use their products as I have my own tried and tested products that we use.

Do we do enough decking to make it worth my while? I'll just say yes because if I say anything else it would look like boasting, my web-site will give you an idea to our work.
Would/do people pay for a good decking service, yes bit like you guys that do internal floors, people will pay for quality workmanship.

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 03:34:20 pm »
Roger,
Looks like you're into it in a big way so probably bit of a no brainer, I think its a great idea, and I wish you the very best of luck with it. I don't use Osmo but of course as a sanding company I know of them, I don't think they would sell anything that would damage their hard earned reputation.

Pleas let us know how you get on if you decide to invest.

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 03:43:39 pm »
I am giving it a lot of thought, as it should/could make life easier with some of the rooftop decking we do, less kit to go up either lifts or stairs etc. Should also be less mess as well.
Just got to make a decision really.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 09:27:50 pm »
The machine is made in India by the manufacturers of the multi wash with a slight difference with the water feed. I have used my multi wash on my decking the last few years and it works well. I usually use some sodium per carbonate applied by watering can, scrub with the machine then hose it off.

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 10:22:26 am »
There you go Roger, go on buy it, you know you want to!

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 12:31:00 pm »
The machine is made in India by the manufacturers of the multi wash with a slight difference with the water feed. I have used my multi wash on my decking the last few years and it works well. I usually use some sodium per carbonate applied by watering can, scrub with the machine then hose it off.

Are the boards on your deck flat or ridged/grooved ?

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 01:49:53 pm »
Grooved. I run my multiwash 340 with blue brushes on it.

Chris Lloyd

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 02:44:24 pm »
Wow! Osmo hire out the Wood Orbiter for £200 per day? That's a lot!

We do the Multiwash or the Rotowash M45B for £47.06 + vat & delivery per day, or £94.12 per week.

The Rotowash is slighlty larger than the multiwash (45cm wide rather than 30cm) and heavier so would probably produce the better reult out of the 2!

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 02:53:22 pm »
Wow! Osmo hire out the Wood Orbiter for £200 per day? That's a lot!

We do the Multiwash or the Rotowash M45B for £47.06 + vat & delivery per day, or £94.12 per week.

The Rotowash is slighlty larger than the multiwash (45cm wide rather than 30cm) and heavier so would probably produce the better reult out of the 2!

Chris,
Do you have a spec sheet you could email me of those machines?

Chris Lloyd

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 03:13:21 pm »
Yes Roger, what's your email adress?

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2013, 03:15:35 pm »

Len Gribble

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2013, 07:14:55 pm »
Shouldn’t it be called Wood CRB  ::)roll ???
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2013, 09:02:15 pm »
Shouldn’t it be called Wood CRB  ::)roll ???

Len don't get that?

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2013, 09:08:32 pm »
Len means contra rotating brush,
there is a multiwash on ebay with missing lids, starting at £4.99
could be a bargain for someone

It is listed as a multywash (spelling mistake)
will see if i can find it again and post link.
They are good for this job, just done mine

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2013, 09:15:27 pm »
Cheers Andrew,
Just had a look, would want it to hit the ground running, but could work for someone.
I meant to answer your question re oils used and cleaning products earlier sorry.

Have you oiled your deck yet or are you going to?

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2013, 10:00:00 pm »
I have a couple of scrap multiwash's in the workshop if anyone needs parts to make one good also most new parts incl brushes from stock.

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2013, 10:10:45 pm »
Cheers Andrew,
Just had a look, would want it to hit the ground running, but could work for someone.
I meant to answer your question re oils used and cleaning products earlier sorry.

Have you oiled your deck yet or are you going to?

I havn't yet Roger, what do you reccomend ?

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2013, 10:14:41 pm »
Cheers Andrew,
Just had a look, would want it to hit the ground running, but could work for someone.
I meant to answer your question re oils used and cleaning products earlier sorry.

Have you oiled your deck yet or are you going to?

I havn't yet Roger, what do you reccomend ?

Colourtrend OTO waterbased

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2013, 08:04:06 pm »
Cheers Andrew,
Just had a look, would want it to hit the ground running, but could work for someone.
I meant to answer your question re oils used and cleaning products earlier sorry.

Have you oiled your deck yet or are you going to?

I havn't yet Roger, what do you reccomend ?

Colourtrend OTO waterbased
have you a link Roger to where you get it, cheers

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2013, 08:13:09 am »
The rep told me £200 per day, its way too much for a machine costing £2000 to buy ( especially as that's full retail, they wouldn't buy it at that). Makes professional floor sanders a bargain costing £3500 an renting at £75 per day roughly.

Terry

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 09:01:53 am »
The £2000 price ticket is in the same ballpark as the Multiwash machine. You can get a good deal from your friendly neighbourhood Truvox dealer  ;).

They are amazingly productive units due to all the weight being on the brushes.
The Osmo machine is a slightly different spec from other machines out there in that it uses the tank normally found on the multiwash models with a sprayer built in but uses it to top up the gravity fed solution tank of the standard models for increased capacity. This is a great idea considering that on decking a fair bit of cleaning solution will be lost between the deck boards.
When we use our machine for restoration cleans we would wet the boards first with water. Apply the chosen cleaner with a watering can then scrub with the machine. When we do this we take off the rear waste tank and drop its lid down to act as a splash guard. This way it drops the solution back onto the deck for added contact time. We then vac off and low pressure rinse, often with a garden hose, so as not to open up the fibres of the wood. Yes this means additional kit required for the task but we find this most productive as the waste tank doesnt hold a huge amount of water and requires frequent emptying.

When working on interior flooring we would use the dispenser system and recovery tray so as not to overwet the wood. It leaves the floor really dry (with soft black brushes) and removes a remarkable amount of soil with such low moisture.

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2013, 09:02:40 pm »
Cheers Andrew,
Just had a look, would want it to hit the ground running, but could work for someone.
I meant to answer your question re oils used and cleaning products earlier sorry.

Have you oiled your deck yet or are you going to?

I havn't yet Roger, what do you reccomend ?

Colourtrend OTO waterbased
have you a link Roger to where you get it, cheers

Andrew
The guy to speak to is Brett Losasso 07811 138307

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2013, 09:54:06 pm »
Many thanks for help and info Roger, appreciated.
Andrew

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2013, 10:12:01 pm »
Finally got time to go to Osmo today to look at the wood orbiter, looks a good piece of kit so have one on order as the one tested/tried developed a fault whilst there  :(  Hopefully should have one in a couple of weeks.


Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2013, 07:15:58 am »
Roger,

Was it VERY different to the Multiwash?

Terry

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2013, 07:21:10 am »
Only the fresh water tanks are different.

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2013, 09:23:35 pm »
Roger,

Was it VERY different to the Multiwash?

Terry

Terry to be honest haven't had time to do a comparison between the two, but it doesn't look very different so similar, but the deal I cut with Osmo was going to hard to beat for anyone I would think, machine is now ready so should have it by the end of next week, so will post photos and give feedback on how it performs, as it will hit the ground running with the work we have booked in.

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 11:14:07 am »
Great look forward to hearing and seeing how it went

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2013, 10:40:54 pm »
The Osmo arrives this week, will be using at Wimbledon in a couple of weeks as we do a couple of decks there each year, so will be a good test as we have been doing these for the last years years so know how they should look.

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2013, 08:56:26 pm »
OSMO arrived and finally got a bit of time to try it out today, on the decking outside our workshop which get's abused with furniture cleaning we do, and very happy with results so far, removed a lot of dead wood fibres which is a bonus for what I need.

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2013, 08:47:31 pm »
So finally put the Osmo to test, used it on the decking we do for Wimbledon each year, cleaned very well, so very little sanding for us this year, on par time wise with pressure washing the area we do. It's next big test is a deck over a Koi pond later this year, like the water re-claim side of the machine so very little going between the boards which is going to be a must with the Koi pond. Have some roof top balconies to clean later this month so will photo those and put up here.

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2013, 09:36:35 am »
Glad thats working out for you Roger, thanks for letting us all know.

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2013, 09:29:54 pm »
Terry
What is your web-site, as it doesn't work from your profile?

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2013, 06:17:37 pm »

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2013, 08:54:01 pm »
Some photos of a deck we did with the wood orbiter

Cedar decking that was stripped & brightened, sanded then re-oiled.






Kev Martin

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2013, 08:09:34 am »
nice job Roger

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Jamie Pearson

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2013, 08:13:00 am »
Roger,

Have you tried the Osmo reviver Gel with your Orbiter?

I have just put some on the order that went in to give it a go at home.

Regards,
Jamie.

Kevin OBrien

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2013, 10:50:16 am »
Looks the same as my Rotowash even the black brushes.They are on EbAy

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2013, 10:59:56 am »
Roger,

Have you tried the Osmo reviver Gel with your Orbiter?

I have just put some on the order that went in to give it a go at home.

Regards,
Jamie.
Jamie,
I haven't used the Osmo Gel, I use for the clean & brighten side of things, Net-Rol

Terry Guilford

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2013, 12:42:08 pm »
Roger,

That deck looks really good, nice job.

Terry

Roger Oakley

Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2013, 12:12:04 am »
Thanks Terry,
Have a nice one coming up in a few weeks, over a Koi pond, fish will still be in the pond while we work on it plus a bridge over the pond. So the machine is going to earn it's keep, keeping cleaning agents out of the pond!!!

James Masters

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Re: Wood Orbiter
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2017, 10:24:59 pm »
Hi all

I know I'm pretty late to the party, but I've spent the last two years cleaning customers decking with a pressure washer to varying degrees of results and I've only just discovered the concept of a Wood Orbiter or a Truvo, I've been reading about Osmo cleaning products, but I've found a few Multiwash 340's on ebay around £500 mark. 
So my questions are.
do they make a good option over a pressure washer?
what chemicals should I use to clean decking?
is it a mistake buying a 2nd hand one?

Cheers All

Jim Masters
Bucks Pressure Washing