[richywilts]

had two sets now written off coz staff have drove into the unit with shutter not fully pulled up these cost me 120quid should i bill them n dock wages due to carelessness

[steven ainger]

The joys of employing
Personally i think you should warn them if it happens again you will bill them

[gavinb]

Bit of a stupid question if you ask me 
You cant charge an employee for busting a tool ffs its all part and parcel of employing .
Besides it comes off the tax bill anyway lol .

[richywilts]

Bit of a stupid question if you ask me 
You cant charge an employee for busting a tool ffs its all part and parcel of employing .
Besides it comes off the tax bill anyway lol .

me personally wouldnt dock wages thats why im asking but when it carelessness and theres two in the van and one could have guided the other in to the unit instead of driving into the roller shutter and snapping it im in two minds so just seeing what others think

[PoleKing]

+1 Mr Ainger.
Last warning, you can't really charge them though. Probably have to go down the warnings route, probably the same kind of thing as snapping a pole at work...

[telfordwindowclnr]

Bit of a stupid question if you ask me 
You cant charge an employee for busting a tool ffs its all part and parcel of employing .
Besides it comes off the tax bill anyway lol .

me personally wouldnt dock wages thats why im asking but when it carelessness and theres two in the van and one could have guided the other in to the unit instead of driving into the roller shutter and snapping it im in two minds so just seeing what others think

Make it company policy that if there are 2 in the van, one must guide the other in. If they break clamps again, they either didn't guide each other in or the one watching wasn't watching enough. Either way, you have a stronger case for discipline then I reckon.

[gavinb]

Id just say to them to make sure the roller shutter is right up when driving in .
Surely your employees aren't that ignorant .

[richard jagger]

Replace the clamps with a length of rope and let them use it in future.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

I'd be charging em

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

You can't charge them.

I know what Id do if you tried to charge me, it would cost an employer a lot more if they were to try that fast one on.

D'you think the Army charge soldiers for a new tank when the one they're in gets written off ? Richy come on, its a pitiful state surely if a company has to try to resort to that.

 

[Perfect Windows]

had two sets now written off coz staff have drove into the unit with shutter not fully pulled up these cost me 120quid should i bill them n dock wages due to carelessness

Training failure, at a guess.

It's your responsibility to train them specifically in how to avoid this.  Up to that point it's your fault.  Once you have done that, it is their responsibility to follow the procedure you have laid down.  After that, it's their fault.

Vin

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

2 in the van n they just drove in not
Even checking
Think I wud flip a case of employer brutality

[windiewasher]

sack em!

[stuart mc]

don't know how to multi quote

but

Training failure, at a guess.

It's your responsibility to train them specifically in how to avoid this.  Up to that point it's your fault.  Once you have done that, it is their responsibility to follow the procedure you have laid down.  After that, it's their fault.

Vin

do this and you can charge them for the clamps, oh and put it in writing

and matt

You can't charge them.

I know what Id do if you tried to charge me, it would cost an employer a lot more if they were to try that fast one on.

D'you think the Army charge soldiers for a new tank when the one they're in gets written off ? Richy come on, its a pitiful state surely if a company has to try to resort to that.
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the Army can and will if it is down to neglect, i.e not doing what Vin suggested

I was sent a bill for ten damaged sights for rifles that had scratched lenses, the training clearly states the metal round the edge of the lenses should not be cleaned using abrasive materials, It asked for the names of the weapon users so they could be billed, I was a bit disgusted at this point and took the bill and letter to my sgt major, he said go get me the names of ten soldiers that have left the services in the last 6 months wise man

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

wise man

Obviously, he was well aware of the consequences his employers actions could have had, especially as it was a 'mistake' and not 'neglect'  


People make mistakes, when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, dont be surprised. If you think you can deduct from their wages the cost of these materials you should also reward them in a like for like fashion when they excel. I somehow cant see that happening though  

[DG Cleaning]

I knew who'd posted this subject before I'd even looked

[Fin Clearview]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

[richywilts]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

good idea think il do that

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Thinking about it, I'd give them a bonus, they're sh!t clamps, don't hold the ladders in place securely enough anyway. Consider it a close shave Richy, they could lose the ladders going down the motorway with those things.

[stuart mc]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

good idea think il do that

really? if you want to go down the route of billing for damages, make sure they have been trained, and make sure it is recorded, and you can not bill them for the brand new amount, as soon as you buy something it depreciates in value.

ever thought on doing a man management course Richy? it could be invaluable