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EandM

  • Posts: 2199
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2013, 10:20:57 am »
  Why consider either of them when while Toyota still build a HiLux, it wipes the floor with all the imitations.

Couldn't find a good Hilux for sensible money or a super cab with suicide doors
Don't quite see how the Ranger / Mazda B is an imitation as it pre-dates the Hilux by 7 years being first built in 1961.

EandM

  • Posts: 2199
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2013, 10:38:38 am »
02-05 navaras suffer from this. Bought mine from a navara specialist. They up rate the con rod bolts among other things. Every car or van can have its faults.

It's not so much the fault that's the worry. You have to buy from a specialist who, through using some good engineering intelligence, corrects an engineering fault that the manufacturers can't be bothered to address or correct themselves - effectively making the engine not fit for purpose - and then dismiss warranty claims for £3-5,000 for the replacement of wrecked engines at 40,000 miles on the flimsiest of excuses. Doesn't inspire faith or confidence I'm afraid.

formb

Re: navara or L200
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2013, 10:42:04 am »
Quote from: scud
Why consider either of them when while Toyota still build a HiLux, it wipes the floor with all the imitations.

Ahh but the Hilux is itself just a wannabe!

windiewasher

  • Posts: 4393
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2013, 04:08:43 pm »
Ranger.much better than both of them.

A Ford Ranger is in no way better than either of those.

Not even a bit.

Not in any way, shape or form.

 :P

It definately is l200 and navaras have so many faults.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

concept

  • Posts: 1049
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2013, 04:35:48 pm »
Ranger.much better than both of them.

A Ford Ranger is in no way better than either of those.

Not even a bit.

Not in any way, shape or form.

 :P

It definately is l200 and navaras have so many faults.

As do all vehicles.

Google any vehicle and you will find something.


formb

Re: navara or L200
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2013, 05:14:49 pm »
Quote from: windiewasher
Quote from: Me
Quote from: You
Ranger.much better than both of them.

A Ford Ranger is in no way better than either of those.

Not even a bit.

Not in any way, shape or form.

 :P

It definately is l200 and navaras have so many faults.

They are all the wrong vehicle at the end of the day.

 :)

EandM

  • Posts: 2199
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2013, 05:29:34 pm »
Quote from: windiewasher
Quote from: Me
Quote from: You
Ranger.much better than both of them.

A Ford Ranger is in no way better than either of those.

Not even a bit.

Not in any way, shape or form.

 :P

It definately is l200 and navaras have so many faults.

They are all the wrong vehicle at the end of the day.

 :)


I find the Ranger absolutely excellent for normal use and brilliant this week when I drove across a very boggy field in 4wd to clean a large number of solar panels. Don't think my old van would have managed that somehow !

Re: navara or L200
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 11:23:17 pm »
Quote from: windiewasher
Quote from: Me
Quote from: You
Ranger.much better than both of them.

A Ford Ranger is in no way better than either of those.

Not even a bit.

Not in any way, shape or form.

 :P

It definately is l200 and navaras have so many faults.

They are all the wrong vehicle at the end of the day.

 :)


I find the Ranger absolutely excellent for normal use and brilliant this week when I drove across a very boggy field in 4wd to clean a large number of solar panels. Don't think my old van would have managed that somehow !
I went to a solar site a week before the snow came. I had to be driven around on a manitou with tracks, not wheels and we still got stuck!!! They are now spending £185,000 on drainage! Ouch! Would the ranger have got me he job done?  ;)

EandM

  • Posts: 2199
Re: navara or L200
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 11:55:20 pm »

I find the Ranger absolutely excellent for normal use and brilliant this week when I drove across a very boggy field in 4wd to clean a large number of solar panels. Don't think my old van would have managed that somehow !
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I went to a solar site a week before the snow came. I had to be driven around on a manitou with tracks, not wheels and we still got stuck!!! They are now spending £185,000 on drainage! Ouch! Would the ranger have got me he job done?  ;)
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I spend considerable time off road, mostly in a fairly steep field. Very little has so far defeated it but I am limited by the tyres and thick mud does cause some issues. With some proper all terrain or mud tyres, coupled with 500 kg over the rear wheels, a rear limited slip diff and a very good low range 'box it would probably get you to most places without trouble. My old 2wd P100 just used to spin one rear wheel and dig itself in but the Ranger does rather better.