[Craigp]

This will upset you Simon, it's not up to us, the EU have told us we must treat all citizens the same.

That means they must have equal rights to our benefits, schools, hospitals.. ect.

So we cannot do that if we wanted to, unless we left the EU.

[Simon Gerrard]

Sod the EU then.
They way it is going is beginning to look like the rise of the Fourth Reich, German domination of Europe, albeit by more peaceful means than the Third Reich.
http://www.newstatesman.com/europe/2011/11/germany-european-economic

Simon

[Paul Moss]

And thats why we need to vote ukip, there is only Nigel Farage that has been banging the drum about coming out of europe.

I know where my vote will be going.

[derek west]

The real problem is immigration and no party is willing to stop it the more people who come here and claim benefits the bigger strain on the system that cant afford it yes some people come and enhance this country but most don't they clog low paid jobs stopping young British people from getting a start.

Jim

What we should be doing is making it so new migrants to this country have no entitlement to the NHS or Social Security until they have been a British taxpayer for two years and not simply been resident in the UK for that time and if we did that it would take away two of the main reasons for coming here in the first place.

Simon

sounds good to me.
I'm voting for Simon Gerard, the carpet cleaning party.

[Paul Moss]

The real problem is immigration and no party is willing to stop it the more people who come here and claim benefits the bigger strain on the system that cant afford it yes some people come and enhance this country but most don't they clog low paid jobs stopping young British people from getting a start.

Jim

What we should be doing is making it so new migrants to this country have no entitlement to the NHS or Social Security until they have been a British taxpayer for two years and not simply been resident in the UK for that time and if we did that it would take away two of the main reasons for coming here in the first place.

Simon

sounds good to me.
I'm voting for Simon Gerard, the carpet cleaning party.

LOL thats prob against the human rights act, passed by Brussellssss lol

[Allan Simmons]

Would that be "The Monster Raving Carpet Cleaning Party"  or the "CCP" party?  Got my vote whichever.

[bennymon]

They keep telling us not to waste our vote . Then you go and vote and and end up with something not one single person had voted for.infact the libs got les votes than predicted Finnish 3rd and then get to choose who runs the country CRAZY . Del

[Craigp]

Yes Paul you gotta love the guy, look at him rip into Gordon brown; 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0

[Simon@arenaclean]

I admire UKIP but I can't see them progressing all that much further, maybe the odd by-election here and there. The only way to sort it is a clear referendum vote on Europe ie IN or OUT, and then maybe they can apply pressure.

[Hilton]

Right you have started me off now  

Your right UKIP will never have a majority you have to be around a few decades to build up that kind of support but they could hold the balance of power as the Libs have done, Eton Dave could be looking to UKIP as possible coalition partners we will see then what Nige will really be about.

The EU is one massive gigantic humongous scam perpetuated on the people of Europe by an elite who's agenda was and is the complete economic control of Europe under one government for the benefit of a tiny minority.

Britain's elite could not miss out on the club so were eager to sign up at any cost, eventually conning the British into joining under the traitor Ted Heath who as part of the deal signed over Britain's fishing fleet (waters) to European control.Not even Nazi Germany managed to control our seas but Ted Heath with the stroke of pen handed them over in one day.

Its been down hill ever since costing the country enormous amounts of cash and the loss of our sovereignty (although this is denied) 80% of all laws come from Brussels not Westminster, including mass immigration. You see, its obvious if you dilute a population ( by removing border control) of its natives you reduce resistance to foreign interference in government (Brussels), in otherwords the government of the day has to appeal to all sectors of the community old and new and some areas of this country are now dominated by east europeans so if Timmy Tory wants to keep his cushy MEP job he had better vote the right way when in the EU.

Europeans do not consider the British as European anyway,never have done, read anything by De Gaul on the subject, and the feeling is mutual, when I go to the States or elswhere and they ask where I am from I don't say Europe.

The people of this country are like a tanker turning, slowly coming round to the fact that we have/are been scammed. I have said it eleswhere, if you vote Labour Tory Libs or anyone else other than UKIP or indeed do not vote at all, then you have voted for open borders and mass immigration, you obviously wanted Romanians and Bulgarians to flood the country in 2014 to go along with the 700000 Poles that are already here.

I better not go on I could be here all day on this subject 

[wynne jones]

The Aussies have it right. You can come in if you will make this a better place. If you lose your job or commit a crime you go straight back where you came.

[Simon Gerrard]

Paul,
Yeah, it probably is. But what about the human rights of all the people who wait in line for operations having paid their dues all their lives, BEHIND immigrants who haven't paid an effing penny into the system.
Perhaps the younger generation don't realise that the only time the British people voted for Europe was the Common Market referendum god knows how many years ago. Somehow we now have come to a situation where 80% of the laws that apply to British citizens were made in Europe. If we had been told back when the only referendum on Europe was held that one day our country would be governed by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, we'd have told them to f off, which is what we should do when Cameron gives us our long overdue referendum.

Simon

[*Hector*]

The Aussies have it right. You can come in if you will make this a better place. If you lose your job or commit a crime you go straight back where you came.

Which is quite ironic really, considering most of their ancestors committed crimes to get there in the first place 

[Craigp]

Who was that politician I think he was an Australian? he used the term "Return to sender"  

Hilton agree with that, though I have nothing against people from Eastern Europe, I've made friends with people from Poland and Latvia in recent years, perfectly good people, but as Jim said earlier its the numbers, so many young Brittish are out of work.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Immigrants are brought into this country to fill in the void of cheap labour that's why they are mainly located in the capital where minimum wage is a real issue but Eastern Europeans will have it all day long as we know if London stops moving then so does the country but our home grown children won't work for minimum wage because we parents want better for them.

We do need a system like the Aussies where we decide when immigrants come in and not claim benefits as we can't afford to keep them and us!

Shaun

[wynne jones]

Don't worry our politicians who know better than us are saying they are all going to Spain because of the weather. 

[Paul Moss]

I dont really care which party controls the country as long as they have got some balls to make some tough desicions and sort the country out. Not faff about with headline politics like gay marriage etc

[Andrew Briscoe]

I hate most of the top politicians we have at the moment.

Imagine you wher in the pub with your mates and Cameron, Milliband and Clegg where out with you, Cameron would be the posh boy who everyone ignored, Milliband would be the one you took the p*ss out of all the time, and Clegg would be the one you wanted to slap. Ok well all 3 would want a slap.

Boris for PM I say, at least you would have a smile on your face, even when things
where going tits up 

[Len Gribble]

It’s not always about benefits it’s also where to house them

I did rate Boris until he followed Ken’s low emissions 

[Paul Moss]

Yes Paul you gotta love the guy, look at him rip into Gordon brown; 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0

The guy just talks common sense, but most of all for me he has got a pair of balls and sticks to his guns .