[Wc Solutions]

This isn't an anti wfp or newbie post! Been wfp for years n years now ...

Just pointing out that over the past say 3 try's I'm seeing so many wcs popping up every day.

Years ago it was just in the summer, norm story old clapped out motor, cheap bucket and kit kat tea towel...

But since wfp became so easy/cheap to DIY etc ... Newbies are lasting alot longer and in my area there's too many about now. Not effect me one but just worried for the future of wc in some way ... Don't want it becoming a price war! Be getting £1 house window cleaner next like the pound shop ... So in a way wfp could harm the trad in that way ( hope that makes sense )

[lee_dewing]

Maybe under current climate more and more window cleaners inevitable.

I just concentrate on being reliable, polite and doing a good job, at a fair price.

Window cleaning is a rewarding job but has it's downsides, I've met a few windies on my travels who were going to take over the world, only to jack it in 2 years later.

I want my customers to want me because i'm a good window cleaner and not the only window cleaner.
Don't worry about what others are doing mate
Let em worry about you.

[Smudgeoff Cleaning Services]

Maybe under current climate more and more window cleaners inevitable.

I just concentrate on being reliable, polite and doing a good job, at a fair price.

Window cleaning is a rewarding job but has it's downsides, I've met a few windies on my travels who were going to take over the world, only to jack it in 2 years later.

I want my customers to want me because i'm a good window cleaner and not the only window cleaner.
Don't worry about what others are doing mate
Let em worry about you.

Excellent advice....

[tonyoliver]

shops in croydon are being done for 40 p and houses are down to 4 all windows for a three bed semi was 15 last  year  shops 5  we are having our arses ripped out

[Fin Clearview]

I'm not being funny but this forum makes me laugh, banging on about how many new kids are on the block yet this forum constantly has lads posting their hourly rate and daily takings,
is it any wonder?

This is a great place for everything else bar discussing finances and in future for the security of earning a fair living some people should be more smart imo.

[james peters]

I'm not being funny but this forum makes me laugh, banging on about how many new kids are on the block yet this forum constantly has lads posting their hourly rate and daily takings,
is it any wonder?

This is a great place for everything else bar discussing finances and in future for the security of earning a fair living some people should be more smart imo.

my thoughts exactly...having said that....look at all the posts about cold weather rain etc....
some are finding it hard going...and many just wont work in the rain etc......
IMO you have to work in all weathers to succeed in this game...

[robertphil]

  market for wfp on the big council estates is very limited,iv not seen 1 in five years

 the big houses is the wfp market  

  

 

[Wc Solutions]

My point was with too many wcs about after wfp is making it more appealing to newbies, the whole ladder thing would put them off before.

Just don't want a price war to start... Years n tears ago if I said there would be 4 pound shops in every town I'd have been laughed at!

[Dave Mills]

shops in croydon are being done for 40 p and houses are down to 4 all windows for a three bed semi was 15 last  year  shops 5  we are having our arses ripped out

Can I be blunt?  I simply do not beleive that shops that were £5 last year and houses that were £15 are now 40p and £4. 

Youre not comparing like with like, or youre making some other error.  Are you sure youre not mixing up fears and truth?

[tonyoliver]

s orry dave i have lost shops at £5 to an asian guy who does em for 40 p he uses tissue paper and seems to spend forever but the shop keepers say cheap is cheap and quality has gone out of the window  game. the cheap houses are done by a guy who uses a wheelie bin to move around the area and has even asked to borrow my ladders to help him out .....
commercial...... in croydon the shopping ctr was cleaned every day state   £ 40 per shop big shops and were checked every day by the ctr manager who went round with a white hankie any dirt and you would clean the whole lot again  last week i saw to cleaners clean  with a small pole and no water leaving grey smears on all  the windows   leaving the windows in such a state anyone here  would expect the sack price not pros is the way forward and we are all doomed to poverty some time soon

[robertphil]

i notice that a long established wfpoler  in my area now is advertising carpet and some other cleaning as well as windows on his merc van.  i used to feel a bit jealous of him when i was working from a car only.  now it looks to me like he cant cut it on the windows so has diversified


course he may just have fancied doing carpets  tho if he has a full round which he surely should have had ,how has he the time to do it all

[tonyoliver]

you think window cleaning is cut throat look at the carpet boys post whole house 15 quid ect

[Fin Clearview]

My point was with too many wcs about after wfp is making it more appealing to newbies, the whole ladder thing would put them off before.

Just don't want a price war to start... Years n tears ago if I said there would be 4 pound shops in every town I'd have been laughed at!

I totally agree but I just wanted to say something about this forum that I think is quite ridiculous when it comes to safe guarding our income. People posting 'i did x number of jobs at x price for x hours work on a public forum seems daft to me. I mean you wouldn't go and tell everyone down your local this information would you, but a public forum where thousands of people come to? 

[deeege]

s orry dave i have lost shops at £5 to an asian guy who does em for 40 p he uses tissue paper and seems to spend forever but the shop keepers say cheap is cheap and quality has gone out of the window  game. the cheap houses are done by a guy who uses a wheelie bin to move around the area and has even asked to borrow my ladders to help him out .....
commercial...... in croydon the shopping ctr was cleaned every day state   £ 40 per shop big shops and were checked every day by the ctr manager who went round with a white hankie any dirt and you would clean the whole lot again  last week i saw to cleaners clean  with a small pole and no water leaving grey smears on all  the windows   leaving the windows in such a state anyone here  would expect the sack price not pros is the way forward and we are all doomed to poverty some time soon

This needs to be recorded and uploaded to YouTube

[rosskesava]

I'm not being funny but this forum makes me laugh, banging on about how many new kids are on the block yet this forum constantly has lads posting their hourly rate and daily takings,
is it any wonder?

This is a great place for everything else bar discussing finances and in future for the security of earning a fair living some people should be more smart imo.

Exactly. I keep my business methods to myself. Giving anything other than general easy to find advise, what a stupid thing to do.

It's like telling your competitor how you run your business, it's daft. Does anyone on here think that large corporations do that? Does Tesco tell Sainsbury's the best way to get more customers?

This forum is run by people who want more window cleaners to buy window cleaning stuff. The more who give it a go, the more money they make.

[Fin Clearview]

I'm not being funny but this forum makes me laugh, banging on about how many new kids are on the block yet this forum constantly has lads posting their hourly rate and daily takings,
is it any wonder?

This is a great place for everything else bar discussing finances and in future for the security of earning a fair living some people should be more smart imo.

Exactly. I keep my business methods to myself. Giving anything other than general easy to find advise, what a stupid thing to do.

It's like telling your competitor how you run your business, it's daft. Does anyone on here think that large corporations do that? Does Tesco tell Sainsbury's the best way to get more customers?

This forum is run by people who want more window cleaners to buy window cleaning stuff. The more who give it a go, the more money they make.

I'm sure it is but those people shoul take a long hard look at themselves for they will also be planting seeds in the minds of people who would also like to start up a supplies company...this might be our way out if the tough gets going.

[dazmond]

its the explosion in people having access to the internet,forums,online window cleaning magazines,WFP,recession etc.

i dont see the problem in posting earnings and what you can earn in a day etc as most newbie window cleaners will be sadly disappointed when they start up and only earn a fraction of that for a good while as you need to find the work,price well and keep the customers!as well as build up funds for emergencies,sickness,holidays,tax,insurances,new equipment etc.

and then of course there is the weather issue and boredom,late paying customers,non paying customers!the list goes on!!

just concentrate on your own business and do the best job you can and dont worry what other window cleaners are doing/charging etc.

there is a lot of glass out there that needs cleaning!!

[Dave Willis]

"I earned just under £400 on a bad day last week - here's a list of all my jobs and prices" .................. can't understand why anyone would want to be a window cleaner really 

[home6442]

Does anyone really believe whats posted on this site about earnings anyway.
Think about it why go to university and get into debt when you can earn
millions cleaning windows.
Just remembered I must get the Rolls Royce serviced.

[Dave Mills]

s orry dave i have lost shops at £5 to an asian guy who does em for 40 p he uses tissue paper and seems to spend forever but the shop keepers say cheap is cheap and quality has gone out of the window  game. the cheap houses are done by a guy who uses a wheelie bin to move around the area and has even asked to borrow my ladders to help him out .....
commercial...... in croydon the shopping ctr was cleaned every day state   £ 40 per shop big shops and were checked every day by the ctr manager who went round with a white hankie any dirt and you would clean the whole lot again  last week i saw to cleaners clean  with a small pole and no water leaving grey smears on all  the windows   leaving the windows in such a state anyone here  would expect the sack price not pros is the way forward and we are all doomed to poverty some time soon

Ridiculous - "doomed to poverty"?

You think no one will ever notice that 40p gets them a terrible job done?

Get a grip and sell on the quality  you offer.