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Daren Morrish

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Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« on: January 25, 2013, 05:47:19 pm »
Evening all,

One area where a truckmount 'humps ass' over a porty is its large waste tank, which does'nt need to be emptied as often.

Is any one aware of any kind of after-market pump out system available for a portable?

cheers Daren

john martin

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 06:57:19 pm »
Only one i can think off is this external APO .
Id say the  lid would fit any Mytees or the Alltec Elite , Express and airflex mini .
Woodbridge sell it for 400 .

If you have a different machine you would have to adapt the lid valve onto your wastetank or lid somehow ..

http://www.steam-brite.com/aquatec-auto-pump-extractor-piggy-back-back-your-extractor-p-8868.html

You could DIY an internal APO  , with suitable high flow pump  , check valve , filter
not too easy though .

Alternatively a gravity based auto empty as in the Airflex storm should be a simple aftermarket fit but perhaps u need the remote power off to make the best use of that .

Mike Halliday

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 09:21:34 pm »
how about making something like this, but you would also need autofill and a chemical metering system

Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 09:45:29 pm »
Do a search for motorboat bilge pump.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 04:42:02 pm »
Only one i can think off is this external APO .
Id say the  lid would fit any Mytees or the Alltec Elite , Express and airflex mini .
Woodbridge sell it for 400 .

If you have a different machine you would have to adapt the lid valve onto your wastetank or lid somehow ..

http://www.steam-brite.com/aquatec-auto-pump-extractor-piggy-back-back-your-extractor-p-8868.html

You could DIY an internal APO  , with suitable high flow pump  , check valve , filter
not too easy though .

Alternatively a gravity based auto empty as in the Airflex storm should be a simple aftermarket fit but perhaps u need the remote power off to make the best use of that .

Hi John...

Two 5.7 3 stage motors or a single 6.6... what would you go for if you had the choice?

john martin

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 06:21:08 pm »

Hi John...

Two 5.7 3 stage motors or a single 6.6... what would you go for if you had the choice?
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Me , two three stages ...
Performance wise  , no matter how you add it up the two three stages will be way more powerful  .

Assuming its the 1400w ametek three stage  , that would 450 airwatts x 2   vs  645 airwatts for the 6.6 .



A  single 6.6  has 139cfm  ( If you've read its more elsewhere you should take that with a grain of salt )  
 http://dev.ametekfsm.com/Bulletins/122235-00.pdf


Two 5.7s in parallel will have around 200cfm
http://www.centralvacuummotor.com/Product%20Bulletin/117123-00.pdf

Waterlift is around the same for both , or a bit more for the three stage .

Russ Chadd

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 06:38:10 pm »
Thanks John

What if both 5.7 motors were in series compared to parallel?
I have 2 options here... Alltec Express, the usual 2, 5.7 motors in series vs a single 6.6.
Machine must perform well over a 50' length of 1.5" hose, ideas?

Sorry to chip in on this thread guys...

Russ

john martin

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 07:09:39 pm »
Thanks John

What if both 5.7 motors were in series compared to parallel?
I have 2 options here... Alltec Express, the usual 2, 5.7 motors in series vs a single 6.6.
Machine must perform well over a 50' length of 1.5" hose, ideas?

Sorry to chip in on this thread guys...

Russ


Alltec Express  vs ' The Cub '  right ?   ;D

Im sure you could work with both  ....   but i would take the Express  ...  itwill still have the same amount of airwatts vs a single 6.6 in either series or parallel so it will still be more powerful  , plus you have the convenience of built in heat  .

Should be similar internally to steembrites version  here ... although spec is different .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz9ZKF8HGDE

I think i would go for the bigger tank version as a main machine ( Alltec elite )... unless u need a lightweight machine in which case its ideal .
 

Russ Chadd

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 08:05:43 pm »
Thanks John

Not really comparing the two machines, but just the performance of two motors versus the one... can one 6.6 offer similar performance to the other two.. etc... power consumption being loads more having two of the 5.7's...
I have heard some very encouraging reports about the cub...

Max Campbell

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 04:48:38 pm »
Back to the original question - we ran a porty with apo before we got the TM. It was essentially a submersible pump with a float switch, and it worked very well.

Autofill with metered chemical didn't, because the water pressure wasn't sufficient to suck the chem through.

Daren Morrish

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2013, 05:19:32 pm »
Max,

Can you remember the make/model of pump you used, or was it already a part of the porty?

cheers Daren

Max Campbell

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 08:35:02 am »
Max,

Can you remember the make/model of pump you used, or was it already a part of the porty?

cheers Daren

No idea - it was fixed & supplied by Alltec, but it looked like an ordinary 1" submersible, and it wasn't fixed down, just sat on the bottom, exited through a fitting through the glass fibre on the front with a screw-on coupling.

Daren Morrish

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 04:34:21 pm »
Hallo,

here is another add on auto pump out from the US.

http://www.powerplusonline.com/pdf/auto-pumpout.pdf

Cant see any price.

Mike, what is that machine you posted earlier and who supplys them please?

Cheers Daren

Tony Gill Carpet Smart

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 09:50:52 pm »
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Tony Gill Carpet Smart

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Re: Aftermarket 'Auto-Pump' for a Porty.
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 09:52:28 pm »
Ashby's been doing one for years

Tony
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