[Alex Gardiner]

just wondering could all the sections be covered this way to stop black hands

They could.

We do produce a specialist range of poles for a large US corporation (non WFP) which has every section manufactured in this way. They like the thought of having every section insulated in the industry that they work in.

They would no doubt perform similarly to the CLX range in not producing carbon dust as early in their life cycle. However from our testing we have found that even a thin layer of fibre glass does slightly affect the performance of the tube section compared to 100% carbon fibre especially when on every section. Currently we are happier to provide a full carbon pole with the outer layer of fibre glass only on the base sections to maximize performance.

[Stephen Fox]

This is interesting, as if we go down the route of a carbon base section the Phoenix poles will be the worlds lightest fully telescopic water fed poles with the new range we have coming out.

Is this really needed I'm thinking? Safety a bigger issue over being a few grams lighter? Any thoughts?

[poleman]

the Phoenix poles will be the worlds lightest fully telescopic water fed poles with the new range

ARE YOU 100% SURE ABOUT THIS!!!!!

[Stephen Fox]

just wondering could all the sections be covered this way to stop black hands

They could.

We do produce a specialist range of poles for a large US corporation (non WFP) which has every section manufactured in this way. They like the thought of having every section insulated in the industry that they work in.

They would no doubt perform similarly to the CLX range in not producing carbon dust as early in their life cycle. However from our testing we have found that even a thin layer of fibre glass does slightly affect the performance of the tube section compared to 100% carbon fibre especially when on every section. Currently we are happier to provide a full carbon pole with the outer layer of fibre glass only on the base sections to maximize performance.

The base section of a pole being fibreglass has absolutely no effect on the performance on a pole, apart from being safer and adding a few grams extra weight.

[Stephen Fox]

the Phoenix poles will be the worlds lightest fully telescopic water fed poles with the new range

ARE YOU 100% SURE ABOUT THIS!!!!!

Yes! (Without the shouting!)

[Lee GLS]

The base section of a pole being fibreglass has absolutely no effect on the performance on a pole, apart from being safer and adding a few grams extra weight.

I disagree, a fiberglass is not as strong as carbon fiber, and breaks/cracks easier, i am speaking from ecxperience of having a carbon pole with a fiberglass base section. If it has a carbon fiber base section, i pretty sure it would not have cracked.

[Stephen Fox]

Lee, I do not doubt what you are saying as there are a lot of different quality materials out there which do not perform. After selling thousands of poles like this it has proven to be a non issue, don't think I've ever seen a broken base section.

[KS Cleaning]

Just found something else that's 0.02mm thick.

Sagami Original 0.02 non-latex condoms are only 0.02mm (20 microns) thick, approximately one third the thickness of a standard latex condom

What a k n o b

[R.C Property]

Just found something else that's 0.02mm thick.

Sagami Original 0.02 non-latex condoms are only 0.02mm (20 microns) thick, approximately one third the thickness of a standard latex condom

What a k n o b

Well can see your mentality so at least the simple comparison works! 

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Here we go again. Some people can not help themselves.
I was seriously thinking of buying 3 new 'different' poles. Unfortunately after reading this topic, I am not going to be going ahead with that.
I will stick to my original decision to buy all my equipment from one supplier.

I will let you all decide who I am not and who I am 'sticking' with. I think it is pretty clear just from these few posts in this topic.

Many thanks for helping me decide.  
   

[R.C Property]

Here we go again. Some people can not help themselves.
I was seriously thinking of buying 3 new 'different' poles. Unfortunately after reading this topic, I am not going to be going ahead with that.
I will stick to my original decision to buy all my equipment from one supplier.

I will let you all decide who I am not and who I am 'sticking' with. I think it is pretty clear just from these few posts in this topic.

Many thanks for helping me decide.  
   

I just like to get all the facts of everything, coming from the work background I do I'm always asking questions about products, the making of them and safety.
Working with tools that are designed to be used on live 240v electric and know that even a scrach could allow the power through to the hands if the hands was over that scratch, so I'm just interested in things.

[dave f]

calm down calm down , ;Di only wanted an opinion not world war 3

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Here we go again. Some people can not help themselves.
I was seriously thinking of buying 3 new 'different' poles. Unfortunately after reading this topic, I am not going to be going ahead with that.
I will stick to my original decision to buy all my equipment from one supplier.

I will let you all decide who I am not and who I am 'sticking' with. I think it is pretty clear just from these few posts in this topic.

Many thanks for helping me decide.  
   

I just like to get all the facts of everything, coming from the work background I do I'm always asking questions about products, the making of them and safety.
Working with tools that are designed to be used on live 240v electric and know that even a scrach could allow the power through to the hands if the hands was over that scratch, so I'm just interested in things.

I would suggest you learn the difference between 0.20 & 0.02 first.

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

so why do you use a decorators pole for window cleaning then, if you are so keen on having the right equipment?  
Modified... sorry you dont. mis read one of your old posts. lol

[R.C Property]

so why do you use a decorators pole for window cleaning then, if you are so keen on having the right equipment?  

At the moment I use unger poles, even I know they are not decorators poles, and they are the cheaper right equipment,

If you can let me know where there is written that you have to use certain equipment??

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

its the law of ciu. Didnt you know that Richard? :

[R.C Property]

its the law of ciu. Didnt you know that Richard? :

Yer I know lots of members on here hate diy people, but I love it, its 10 times cheaper than buying named stuff! Lol

Like why buy a £600+ pole to do over job that you can get a cheaper one at the same height, for a job that you only do 4 times a year. I brought a unger pole that does that job and after the first job I was in profit, otherwise I would have to do that job 3 times before making any money! It's called business! Or if I took all costs in to the equations then I might have to work doing that one job for the year before making any money, being a year contract and have to go for it again each year, it's nothing worth spending all that for not earning anything better not doing the job if you look at business that way!

If I had more jobs that I need it for then I would of got a better pole.