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Matt Gibson

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Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2012, 11:42:48 pm »
I dont seal anymore. im with BDCS in that i tell them its cheaper to clean ..blah blah.. ive used aquamix, some resiblock and two or three cheaper waterbased impregnating sealers that werent worth mentioning.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2012, 12:28:42 am »
Has anyone used any silane based sealers/impregnators?

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2012, 09:13:22 am »
Roger resiblock 22 af needs "atmospheric moisture" to cure . It works well on sand stone 1/2 (depending on traffic) years down the line it is still helping to preventing staining red wine ,beer,burger fat,lichen etc .
The sealing window this year and  in many years is very short this i will agree with, hence why i am interested in Fluropolymer waterbased products. In my experiance the waterbased products take twice as long to dry as solvented ones (generally) but they are less sensitive to moisture in the substrate.
Sealing paving is "easy money",given the correct expectations,products and weather conditions.
Resolving problems that have gone wrong with sealing projects by other contractors and homeowners is also "easy money " for me.
You mention Lithofin and aqua-mix being expensive but they work. I would rather pay extra for tried and tested products. In the end i have a reputation to uphold i would rather be remembered as being very expensive but worth it than cheap but "it looked ok in the beginning".
I give the customers a price for doing the job correctly... sometimes myself i think that the job is way too expensive but that is just how much costs these days!! A bar of chocolate is nearly a pound and they are getting smaller ;D
Roger thank you for your recommendations i will look at these products.
Cleaning systems...do you have info on silane inpregnators
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www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
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Roger Oakley

Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2012, 09:57:43 am »
Roger resiblock 22 af needs "atmospheric moisture" to cure . It works well on sand stone 1/2 (depending on traffic) years down the line it is still helping to preventing staining red wine ,beer,burger fat,lichen etc .
The sealing window this year and  in many years is very short this i will agree with, hence why i am interested in Fluropolymer waterbased products. In my experiance the waterbased products take twice as long to dry as solvented ones (generally) but they are less sensitive to moisture in the substrate.
Sealing paving is "easy money",given the correct expectations,products and weather conditions.
Resolving problems that have gone wrong with sealing projects by other contractors and homeowners is also "easy money " for me.
You mention Lithofin and aqua-mix being expensive but they work. I would rather pay extra for tried and tested products. In the end i have a reputation to uphold i would rather be remembered as being very expensive but worth it than cheap but "it looked ok in the beginning".
I give the customers a price for doing the job correctly... sometimes myself i think that the job is way too expensive but that is just how much costs these days!! A bar of chocolate is nearly a pound and they are getting smaller ;D
Roger thank you for your recommendations i will look at these products.
Cleaning systems...do you have info on silane inpregnators

Chris
Atmospheric moisture Yes totally agree with, the point I was trying to get across is surface & joins needs to be dry. Some people reading these threads (IE new to this) could take it that "moisture cure" means a bit damp on the surface is ok because I read it on a forum.
As I have said before research & test for ones self to get a true feel of how these things work.
This place can be like Wikepedia, not always correct.

Kenny83

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Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2012, 10:51:35 am »
What are these newish damp seal products made of? the seal o block from jetstram and the adseal extreme, ive never used them, my mate had me strip a  PIC driveway last year that had meen done in adseal extreme, looked good for 6 month then started to look like it had bloomed, started to lift and take all the colour release with it, he asked me to strip and he has recoated with acrylic, he said he would nver use it again, he only tried it the once and look what happened.
he didnt do anythin wrong, followed the instructions etc and he has been laying PIC since 1998 and still going strong so i do not doubt his capabilities or story
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chris scott

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Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2012, 01:52:53 pm »
I think that the Adseal extreme/Smartseal (not the same product)is just a waterbased acrylic  I have not used much of these products to give an opinion...the idea is good. My friend who is an industrial chemist...says they are Cr** (technical term!) Taking into account he has not used them or even seem them in use ,he is basing on his knowledge of the technology behind them. He is pretty good usually in his assumptions.
Creative impressions at preston  http://www.creative-impressions.com Have manufactured a waterbased imprinted concrete seal called gemseal ,i have used that. We are into the second year of it being down and it still looks good.
This is the problem with these products in that it can take 12/18 months before we know if they are any good!
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www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
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Roger Oakley

Re: Fluropolymer on indian sandstone.
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2012, 09:29:11 pm »
Has anyone used any silane based sealers/impregnators?

Jamie.
No not knowingly, use mostly solvents