[Paul Moss]

Good lad keep at it and you will succeed.

But stop arguing with people who know what they are talking about.

Just to add Simon has not got a clue

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Not Argued with anyone who knows what there talking about haha

[Simon Gerrard]

Phil,
Come out with me for a day, I'll show you what carpet cleaning is all about, you never know, you might be inspired.
Ignore Mossy, he doesn't know what he is talking about either

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Would love too Simon would like to see how you go about stain removal and stuff i'm ready to learn and better myself lets set a date and i'l be there but gotta be northwest though 

[Paul Moss]

Phil if Simon says grab hold of my hose, make sureyou run as fast as you can 

[*Hector*]

I agree...

He made me look at and feel his hose once....... Mrs Hector swooned, and I have never been the same since.. 

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

 

[Simon Gerrard]

I agree...

He made me look at and feel his hose once....... Mrs Hector swooned, and I have never been the same since.. 

Hector,
You were admiring my long hose, so was Mrs Hector, especially when I told her it could suck a bowling ball out of a cupboard with the door closed

[robert meldrum]

Who wants a hose that SUCKS...............

[*Hector*]

That is just what Mrs Hector said too Robert......

 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Perhaps we could look at it another way

Lm has a great selling point being 'dry' you could sell dry at a quality angle and it can put you head and shoulders above the competition cd have been doing it for years.

If I truly believed in lm I would use it and market it to death but unfortunately I don't I can see pitfalls, I did use lm for a decent amount of time but I returned to extraction as I was coming across carpets that I believed would respond even better.

Shaun

[John Geurkink]

Now come on you HWE guys, NOW it is all about looks?

Hummmm?

[Paul Moss]

Now come on you HWE guys, NOW it is all about looks?

Hummmm?

John have you seen a picture of Shaun Ashmoooore 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

If you've seen Simon definitely not

John I know you get the tm power debate all the time but we need some real world videos to show us all how it works not just on commercial man made stuck down.

Shaun

[Billy Russell]

Now come on you HWE guys, NOW it is all about looks?

Hummmm?

Well Derek is knackered then!


 

[Adrian Marsh]

Now come on you HWE guys, NOW it is all about looks?

Hummmm?

With respect John, you're only reading the answer's you want to look at, not the more serious answer's which have stated we use different methods which are appropriate to the carpet, situation and customer expectation. We don't need a sledge hammer to crack a nut, but do need a spanner to remove one........if you see my point.

We recognise you're trying to provoke debate however, you must learn to take ALL serious answer's into consideration and not just "pick" the one's you want to readfor your own purpose.

[John Geurkink]

I read the answers, a "few" were serious, however even in them or should I say, in yours, "for obvious reasons" I wonder what that is based on, a statement of suing differing tools for differing situations sounds great, however, what I am looking for is "evidence' that those assumptions are right.

I don't KNOW yet, I get my tester later this week, but will test it on my method and on other methods too, I am just eager to find a way to scientifically prove what each of us are actually doing.

For 39 years all I hear is "I do the best work" or "I remove the most soil" etc, just trying to find a way to prove what we do, one way or the other.

what I like about APT testing is that it tests the removal of organics either live or dead, and will give a number to the amount of removal being done.

[wynne jones]

It's quite simple really.

You send over a few machines to try for any Tmer who is open minded and if they are as good as you say they won't let you have them back. Other than that it's just hot air. 

[derek west]

I read the answers, a "few" were serious, however even in them or should I say, in yours, "for obvious reasons" I wonder what that is based on, a statement of suing differing tools for differing situations sounds great, however, what I am looking for is "evidence' that those assumptions are right.

I don't KNOW yet, I get my tester later this week, but will test it on my method and on other methods too, I am just eager to find a way to scientifically prove what each of us are actually doing.

For 39 years all I hear is "I do the best work" or "I remove the most soil" etc, just trying to find a way to prove what we do, one way or the other.

what I like about APT testing is that it tests the removal of organics either live or dead, and will give a number to the amount of removal being done.

but no ones gonna believe your results john, you own the trinity, youve spent your entire life, a massive budget, your kids inheritance on developing this machine, course your findings are gonna favour the trinity, i can see it now, quote from john "just done some tests on the trinity and turns out, bloody rubbish, what a waste of 39 years, i won't get them back, don't buy it chaps its pooe" not gonna happen is it john, you need an independant body to test it. send one to paul moss and stop beating around the bush, he'll put it through its paces,

[John Geurkink]

ROFLMAO, seems some of you are much more confident than I am, LOL, already assuming a man would lie?

Without testing Wynny, are you any more than hot air?