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Warren Aldridge

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2012, 01:16:18 pm »
Well the keyword is FROM

Which means he most likely charges more so I don't get the fuss. Standard marketing.

Neil Jones

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2012, 02:04:19 pm »
Warren is spot on, how many times have you looked on websites (especially for airlines) to see the FROM word and to never actually be able to get anything at the price after this.

wynne jones

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:04 pm »
Warren is spot on, how many times have you looked on websites (especially for airlines) to see the FROM word and to never actually be able to get anything at the price after this.

I think you can get pulled up on it though if you can't show you have done a job at that price.

You could do an empty EOT for that if there are no major issues and be done in 2 hours, that's not bad money.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

John Kelly

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2012, 09:03:47 pm »
I know plenty. self included who can rattle off an empty 4 bed rental in around an hour. With a truckmount.

Paul Moss

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2012, 09:25:35 pm »
I know plenty. self included who can rattle off an empty 4 bed rental in around an hour. With a truckmount.

With my eyes shut 8)

cannon

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2012, 09:36:41 pm »
I know plenty. self included who can rattle off an empty 4 bed rental in around an hour. With a truckmount.

prove it!  come and clean my carpets and ill time ya. its only 2 bed so you can do the suite aswell

cos i cant be bothered  ;D

derek west

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2012, 09:42:16 pm »
I know plenty. self included who can rattle off an empty 4 bed rental in around an hour. With a truckmount.

an hour ???































must include tea and biscuits then ;D

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2012, 10:37:13 pm »
Warren is spot on, how many times have you looked on websites (especially for airlines) to see the FROM word and to never actually be able to get anything at the price after this.

I think you can get pulled up on it though if you can't show you have done a job at that price.

You could do an empty EOT for that if there are no major issues and be done in 2 hours, that's not bad money.

Yes we expect this from companys with multi million pound turnovers its part of life, you are comparing an airline with a small carpet cleaning business??

I understand what "from" means and I also understand marketing in a cleaning business to some extent.

EOT empty 4 bed detached in one hour wow ;D well done but I'm not really into rushing a job and like to take it easy - vac the carpets - pre-spray - aggitate then rinse and put the driers on them. I live on an estate of about 3000 houses mainly consisting of middle class people, the houses range from £200k to about £420k, not that many empty eot cleans to be had on here really. Even if there was keep those silly prices to the letting agents and landlords if you think you can clean a 4 bed detached for £120 in an hour.

BTW the average 4 bed detached on this estate has "on average" 150 m2 of carpeted area. I would rather charge about £300 plus the vat and take my time for this amount of carpet than rush it just to get back home to log onto my pc and talk aload of rubbish on a forum. The from £120 is misleading and way to cheap for a 4 bed detached house :o

      

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2012, 11:03:41 pm »
Bloody hell I thought I was physically fit but I can't do a full house in 1 hour infact I'd be troubled to do it in 2 hours, epic fail.

Shaun

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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2012, 11:04:14 pm »
Any how Paul, Derek if you are so fast at cleaning carpets and can earn £120 in an hour cleaning a 4 bed detached house and your so good at marketing and getting repeat and new customers with your amazing advertising, how come your not registered for vat yet??? 8 hours every day 52 weeks a year at that rate would be good eh  ;D ;D the only downside is you would have to register for vat.

My advice would be, take your time its not a race, the forums will still be here even if it takes you all day to earn £120  :)  

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2012, 11:09:58 pm »
Paul you know it doesn't work like that, you do have to have the phone ringing off the hook all year round peaks and troughs are part of the industry fair enough my troughs are few and far between but I've been doing this for longer than the other 2.

Not all jobs are at the best rates you can get bogged down with stain removal or a chatty customer or telephone calls.

Shaun

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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2012, 11:28:53 pm »
Paul you know it doesn't work like that, you do have to have the phone ringing off the hook all year round peaks and troughs are part of the industry fair enough my troughs are few and far between but I've been doing this for longer than the other 2.

Not all jobs are at the best rates you can get bogged down with stain removal or a chatty customer or telephone calls.

Shaun

Point taken Shaun, I agree with you I sometimes clean for as little as £30 - £40 ph but advertising the fact is daft, Although Derek wont agree, I think that advertising £120 for a 4 bed detached on my estate is silly, it doesnt do me or the local chem dry any favours and in the long run it wont do him any favours. I clean lounges on here for a minimum of £80 plus vat, when people see the leaflet they may come to the conclusion that I have overcharged them and not use me again, they may call Derek, he then could be in the situation that he has to register for vat and have to add another 20% on his prices. 

Mike Halliday

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2012, 07:12:59 am »
The problem with advertising low prices for volume jobs is the customer can't help to scale it down for smaller jobs they may need. if you advertise £120 for a4 bed house they must think...... £120 4 bed house, my living room must only be it's about £30 then

And if you clean a 4 bed in an hour (plus 30 mins Travel time) it will still take 30-40 mins to clean just  a living room so then your hourly rate drops to £20. not every job is a 4 bed house.

The  low prices stratagy only work when every job is multiroom, the single room jobs kill any profit
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2012, 08:51:16 am »
don't think the local chemdry is too worried about my prices, he passed me a commercial job last month. he was too busy and they wanted it done the following weekend so reccomended me, i was booked for saturday but did it sunday. lady at the toyota garage told me" we usually use chemdry but forgot to book the clean in and had to get it done last minute, chemdry was booked up for 2 weeks solid so reccomended you, said you were very good".  Saying that, i have passed a couple of jobs his way.

FYI
takes me around 2 hours to do an empty or "don't move any furniture" 4 bed house. did a "move in" clean on a 3 bedder yesterday and charged my 3 bed special offer price. 1 hour 30 minutes, came up beautiful. customer gave me a hug she was that pleased. ;D

 

John Milnes

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2012, 09:46:48 am »
It was actually me who passed on your number to the lady at Toyota Derek and it's not one of my custys.

If I recall I was on holiday at the time and I told her that you charge about £120 for a four bedder so those carpets at the garage should cost about £30 ;D
I said perhaps he may have time if he's not at Macdonalds ;)

Joking aside, I don't think they were too bothered about the price as they had to have it done b4 the inspection otherwise they get fined for having dirty carpets.

derek west

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2012, 10:54:57 am »
cheers john, she definately said chemdry though and said they usually do it. £200 i got, took 2 hours with me mate helping. thanks again, owe ya one. ;)

Deep Cleaning Solutions

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #76 on: December 04, 2012, 12:00:11 pm »
I think Derek's price's are very reasonable, a lot of people would think of your price's as "silly", in fact a lot would call it a rip off.If you can get away with it, fair play to you, but Dick Turpin springs to mind.
David.
Owner of Deep Cleaning Solutions.
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Craigp

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2012, 01:43:59 pm »
Deep clean, its alot to YOU

You are not my customer.

Sure its alot to a poor carpet cleaner, but its not alot to someone with a real proffesional job.

derek west

Re: How many other .....
« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2012, 02:31:28 pm »
fact is, there are customers out there who would look at my prices and decide not to use me cos i'm priced on the low side, and there are customers out there who would not pay pauls and others prices because there too high.  i still get turned down on being to expensive but for me,, its water off a ducks back, these are my prices and only my customers will pay these prices, don't see what the problem is really.

to say i'm unprofessional (craig) and silly (happy mondays) , is personally unprofessional and silly. ;D there will always be cheap and always be dear and always be guys somewhere in the middle, its called choice.

Craigp

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Re: How many other .....
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2012, 05:28:27 pm »
Derek, you know i'm not calling you unprofessional, I mean there are lots of professionals out there on £50k plus salaries.

We should not get to doom and gloom, I know its on the news alot but Apple ipads are still flying off the shelfs like hot cakes at £600 a go ;D

My clients are still paying my prices, though I will admit new business is down this year, thats why I have said I would not want to start now with no client base.

Higher prices give you a great buffer in these times :)