[CleanerCarpets]

O my God John, you are so boring. You need to get a life. Is life in America so dull you have to keep posting the same old slagging stuff on here? Even the non Solution fans are bored of you now

[Neil Jones]

No I don't think it is right for people to be fooled but in my opinion I don't think Ken would blatently lie about it. I also think its unfair that people can just go on another forum and post that he is.
If it is such a major issue for you why don't you contact any of the people mentioned in your previous post and ask them to clarify then when you post on here you can back it up with facts.
It might be just me, but I'm fairly sure other people will agree, that if I have a gripe with something/someone I will not go to another forum and post just so people can all have a good women's tea party behind their back. I would either just forget it or if it mattered that much ask them.
I enjoy both forums and learn a lot from each because there are a lot of people with vast amounts of experience but in my opinion the bickering is petty and boring!
I won't be posting again on this thread - I need to get through this season of 24 tonight  

[Paul Moss]

Adding a spray unit does save time the oscillating motion is better than a rotary but when I had mine I didn't think it was significantly better on carpet.

Shaun

Shaun balance and speed are superb on this machine, and because you get glides with it you can get great results on medium and deep carpet piles too.

[john martin]

O my God John, you are so boring. You need to get a life. Is life in America so dull you have to keep posting the same old slagging stuff on here? Even the non Solution fans are bored of you now

I have a life     if you could see my Irish IP you would see i always post from a mobile device ...
Sorry you find the technical stuff boring  , but i am arguing about a technical detail  not slagging anyone off  ... its you thats resorted  to that  .

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I'm sure your model is way better than the challenger I had, the glides are a must I had approx 5 different ones.

Shaun

Ps John is a valued member of the forum please we don't want any personal attacks on members lets keep it professional gentlemen.

[Craigp]

Can someone tell me exactly what is the "ocsillating motion" ?

And glides? think I need to see one ion action

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Check out challenger op

Shaun

[Paul Moss]

Google hbot orot, loads on youtube

[Billy Russell]

I always find the tech info mind numbingly boring!   but in all fairness to John, he seems to know his stuff, and to have someone like that on any board is a bonus to all the members,

He does ask some good questions

 

[john martin]

 lol  at how  LM has snuck its way into this thread  

 I like the look of the sprayborg  although i believe the cimex is rated better  ?

 I can clean good with a 175 but i would feel inadequate turning up to a job with just a 175 and a ringer  ...  people instantly recognize it as some sort of floor buffer .

the sprayborg i would feel confidant with ! ... but im not sure if its practical for domestic ?    

[Paul Moss]

 

Deflection often calms 

[james roffey]

To change the subject completely

Although John does often seem to have an axe to grind the point is a good one.

From what i understand the "wrong" equipment was used to measure in the  recent Ashby's video of the enforcer, whether that is deliberate or just an innocent mistake you can make your own mind up, but the power figures is one of the most important factors when we choose a machine. I don't want to be mislead when spending my hard earned.

[garry22]

It's an interesting "tactic" to focus on one particular part of an argument. Alistair Campell, when he was not lying was very good at arguing an unimportant point so loudly that it totally covered up the main issue.

Following on, I see the Arm & Hammer tooth whitening ad (with Katy Hill) has had to be withdrawn. Yes it did increase the whiteness(?) for about twenty five per cent of the sample. The ASA found however, that it had no effect on about fifty percent but actually darkened the teeth of the remaining twenty five percent! (figures approximate).

They did not tell you that in the ad. Lesson here... focus on the bit that you can win.

[Len Gribble]

Sorry all my fault John re LM as for feeling inadequate don’t take the ringer

Paul

I will only if I get commercial work : :

[mark shannon]

Paul did you buy the weight kit with your Orbot? The Yanks on Encapboard says it makes a huge improvement.

mark

[john martin]

Sorry all my fault John re LM as for feeling inadequate don’t take the ringer

Paul

I will only if I get commercial work : :

No problem !  probably more relevant than the OP's topic  

Should say i wouldn't be without a 175  ...  just the thought of having nothing but i find more daunting ...
The newer slim motor 15" Cimex i'v seen on the US forums looks lightweight ... might make a good domestic/ commercial allrounder  ?
But the sprayborg is just cool    

[Paul Moss]

Paul did you buy the weight kit with your Orbot? The Yanks on Encapboard says it makes a huge improvement.

mark

Yep Mark i bought everything i could get my mitts on with the exception of the hard floor stuff as Jamie was in the early stages of testing it out.
I wanted mine for carpets only and ceramic tile cleaning. Butif the results are godd on hard floors then i will investin that too.