[evo]

Hi guys has anybody thought about this for there vans so it will power our pumps with out the need to buy another battery ever again
here the link

http://www.enginerunlock.com/index.html


i know we would get through more diesel but you could run 2 pumps no problem

[gto]

just charge you battery up its a lot cheaper than fuel is

[evo]

just charge you battery up its a lot cheaper than fuel is

i know mate but batteries don't last for ever or the chargers

[simon sturmey]

ive got a renault megane (car) with key card, and push button start that i can just pullcard out without pressing stop button and car stays running and can lock it to so dunno if any newer vans come with this as standard???
 but i havent left it for no longer than a couple of mins so dunno whether the engine stops after car has been running for a while??

[evo]

ive got a renault megane (car) with key card, and push button start that i can just pullcard out without pressing stop button and car stays running and can lock it to so dunno if any newer vans come with this as standard???
 but i havent left it for no longer than a couple of mins so dunno whether the engine stops after car has been running for a while??

it would come in handy on the winter morning as well 

[[GQC] Tim]

Hi guys has anybody thought about this for there vans so it will power our pumps with out the need to buy another battery ever again
here the link

http://www.enginerunlock.com/index.html


i know we would get through more diesel but you could run 2 pumps no problem

There are quite a few people running two pumps off the van battery. I gave up on leisure batteries and have used the van battery for about 1,5 year. Never a problem. Only problem I had is when I did a 1.5 hour job and I had to leave the hazards on. Almost wouldn't start. Have done 9 hour continuous work, never a problem. I don't do many miles, most of my work is well within the 10 mile radius, with little driving in between jobs. Give it a try. If you are worried, buy a battery booster pack.

[evo]

Hi guys has anybody thought about this for there vans so it will power our pumps with out the need to buy another battery ever again
here the link

http://www.enginerunlock.com/index.html


i know we would get through more diesel but you could run 2 pumps no problem

There are quite a few people running two pumps off the van battery. I gave up on leisure batteries and have used the van battery for about 1,5 year. Never a problem. Only problem I had is when I did a 1.5 hour job and I had to leave the hazards on. Almost wouldn't start. Have done 9 hour continuous work, never a problem. I don't do many miles, most of my work is well within the 10 mile radius, with little driving in between jobs. Give it a try. If you are worried, buy a battery booster pack.

i do run one of my pumps of the van battery and have done so for 12 months but i was a bit worried about running another one.

[[GQC] Tim]

Hi guys has anybody thought about this for there vans so it will power our pumps with out the need to buy another battery ever again
here the link

http://www.enginerunlock.com/index.html


i know we would get through more diesel but you could run 2 pumps no problem

There are quite a few people running two pumps off the van battery. I gave up on leisure batteries and have used the van battery for about 1,5 year. Never a problem. Only problem I had is when I did a 1.5 hour job and I had to leave the hazards on. Almost wouldn't start. Have done 9 hour continuous work, never a problem. I don't do many miles, most of my work is well within the 10 mile radius, with little driving in between jobs. Give it a try. If you are worried, buy a battery booster pack.

i do run one of my pumps of the van battery and have done so for 12 months but i was a bit worried about running another one.

I think Dave@St.Ives has successfully used 2 pumps for years.

[robert mitchell]

On my t4 transporter I can start the van then pull the key out while it's still running , not sure if it was designed like that or not !

[paul saunders]

My son has a vauxhall zafira and the onboard computor says that it uses 0.2l of diesel per hour when it is just ticking over. That's on average 1 litre of fuel per day at £1.45 X5 so about  £7.50 per week. So you could buy a new leisure battery every 10 weeks.

[Spruce]

I think this is a good idea for winter de-icing, and would seriously consider one for the car and my van.

As far as keeping a pump running, well we did have a need once when the previous leisure battery started to fail. Good thing the wife was around to sit in the van with the engine running so the 2 of us could finish the job we were doing.

When I put son's van together, I included a changeover switch that he could choose between the leisure battery or van battery to run his pump. In those days I felt this was another feature that could be used if necessary.
He has never used it and I haven't bothered on my van or my son in law's van.

I'm surprised that the Zafira only uses 0.2litre of diesel with the engine idling. The little Wabesto water diesel heater I have uses 0.3 of a litre per hour and that's tiny.

[evo]

I think this is a good idea for winter de-icing, and would seriously consider one for the car and my van.

As far as keeping a pump running, well we did have a need once when the previous leisure battery started to fail. Good thing the wife was around to sit in the van with the engine running so the 2 of us could finish the job we were doing.

When I put son's van together, I included a changeover switch that he could choose between the leisure battery or van battery to run his pump. In those days I felt this was another feature that could be used if necessary.
He has never used it and I haven't bothered on my van or my son in law's van.

I'm surprised that the Zafira only uses 0.2litre of diesel with the engine idling. The little Wabesto water diesel heater I have uses 0.3 of a litre per hour and that's tiny.

Hi mate can you please tell me how you wired up your change over switch
james

[Spruce]

I think this is a good idea for winter de-icing, and would seriously consider one for the car and my van.

As far as keeping a pump running, well we did have a need once when the previous leisure battery started to fail. Good thing the wife was around to sit in the van with the engine running so the 2 of us could finish the job we were doing.

When I put son's van together, I included a changeover switch that he could choose between the leisure battery or van battery to run his pump. In those days I felt this was another feature that could be used if necessary.
He has never used it and I haven't bothered on my van or my son in law's van.

I'm surprised that the Zafira only uses 0.2litre of diesel with the engine idling. The little Wabesto water diesel heater I have uses 0.3 of a litre per hour and that's tiny.

Hi mate can you please tell me how you wired up your change over switch
james

Hi James

We bought a 10 amp change over toggle switch from Maplins but this is similar on ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Toggle-Switch-SPDT-Changeover-15amp-/150575649421?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item230f02128d

We have one 15amp cable coming from the main van battery into the cabin where his leisure battery is fitted under the front passenger seat. (He has an 800LX Peugeot Partner). This cable terminates at his intelligent split charge relay which is next to his leisure battery. On the SCR output, 1 terminal goes to the leisure battery's positive terminal which charges the leisure battery when the engine is running.  The other output is a direct connection from the input and is live all the time. The 3rd terminal is connected to earth.

The idea is to run a wire from the live terminal on the SCR to the changeover switch. Then run another wire from the leisure battery to the changeover switch. The third terminal on the changeover switch will be live and will go to the pump or flow contoller.
Each switch will have a wiring diagram but can easily be worked out with a voltmeter.

The switch can be mounted anywhere but mustn't be shorted out. We have mounted it sideways on the seat frame  I can't remember which terminals were which but it could be that the center terminal was the feed to the controller and the other terminals were the input from either the leisure battery or van battery.
Depending on which throw of the switch is selected, it will either switch the supply current from the leisure battery to the contoller, or if operated the other way, will disconnect the leisure battery and activate the van battery supply.

I hope you can understand that.

Spruce

[evo]

thanks for that Spruce your a star

[ptwt]

I think it is illegal to leave a vehicle with the engine running unattended. I was informed that this is one of the road traffic laws that drivers of fire appliances are exempt from as they need to leave the engines running. So you may run into trouble with the old bill leaving engine running even if the van/car is locked up.

[DMC Window Cleaners Ltd]

in one of our vans we van two pumps on battery direct, quite often work a full day without moving or starting the van and it starts first time every time

[Spruce]

I think it is illegal to leave a vehicle with the engine running unattended. I was informed that this is one of the road traffic laws that drivers of fire appliances are exempt from as they need to leave the engines running. So you may run into trouble with the old bill leaving engine running even if the van/car is locked up.

didn't know that, thanks!