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king marko

Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« on: August 21, 2012, 07:58:48 pm »
Flow control starting flashing 'bat' this afternoon - flow became very intermittent  :(
Put my charger on battery when I got home and it's showing full charge!!

Any thoughts/help appreciated
 Thanks  :)

bobplum

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 08:08:21 pm »
loose connection ??? more than likely

Dave Willis

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 08:11:27 pm »
How old is the battery?

king marko

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 08:30:00 pm »
No idea how old battery is I'm afraid - at least 2 yrs old

Just googled problem and some suggestions are that the flow controller needs recalibrating - anyone had the same problems?

Bobplum-would it be connections to pump from battery then? (the whole thing is wired into the loom of the van)

Cheers

firefly123

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 08:39:18 pm »
take battery out of van and charge it should be fine then had this on mine today
shiney one

firefly123

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 08:41:58 pm »
take battery out of van and charge it up sometimes if you do not  run your van long enough there wont been enough power in starter battery to relay power to your wfp battery
shiney one

bobplum

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 08:45:14 pm »
No idea how old battery is I'm afraid - at least 2 yrs old

Just googled problem and some suggestions are that the flow controller needs recalibrating - anyone had the same problems?

Bobplum-would it be connections to pump from battery then? (the whole thing is wired into the loom of the van)

Cheers
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you would just have to back track from on end to the other and physically inspect all of the available connections,even the connections on the battery as they can rot away

king marko

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 08:47:21 pm »
take battery out of van and charge it up sometimes if you do not  run your van long enough there wont been enough power in starter battery to relay power to your wfp battery
I've disconnected my van battery and put it on charge - immediately the light came on showing full charge on battery charger ?
How Will  I know if my battery is the on the way out if it's showing full charge?
Cheers  :)

king marko

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 08:48:01 pm »
No idea how old battery is I'm afraid - at least 2 yrs old

Just googled problem and some suggestions are that the flow controller needs recalibrating - anyone had the same problems?

Bobplum-would it be connections to pump from battery then? (the whole thing is wired into the loom of the van)

Cheers
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you would just have to back track from on end to the other and physically inspect all of the available connections,even the connections on the battery as they can rot away
Cheers bob

steve smith

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 08:52:13 pm »
I have this on mine, Gardiners flow controller, I know my wires are fine but still does it, battery is almost new as well, I don't know the answer.


keyser soze

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 09:30:30 pm »
spooky.... the same happened to me yesterday. full battery but controller said it needed charging turned out to be one of the wires from the battery had sort of eroded. (making a bad connection )and needed to be cut and reconnected..

king marko

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 10:10:16 pm »
spooky.... the same happened to me yesterday. full battery but controller said it needed charging turned out to be one of the wires from the battery had sort of eroded. (making a bad connection )and needed to be cut and reconnected..
I'll have a look mate cheers - might be giving you a bell tho as I'm bloody useless when it comes to owt like that  ;D

Spruce

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 10:10:48 pm »
take battery out of van and charge it up sometimes if you do not  run your van long enough there wont been enough power in starter battery to relay power to your wfp battery
I've disconnected my van battery and put it on charge - immediately the light came on showing full charge on battery charger ?
How Will  I know if my battery is the on the way out if it's showing full charge?
Cheers  :)

We have had a couple of leisure batteries show the same symptom - they show fully charged but only work for a couple of hours. Running the van engine allowed our SCR to replenish some of the charge but it doesn't last long.
Both batteries were over 3 years old and replacing them solved the problem.

I also had a 3rd do the same on my first trailer, but as it was only a year old I persevered with it until I got the van mount and a new 110 amp leisure battery for that.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Tom White

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 10:32:46 pm »
Is your flow controller a variflow?  Mine did this, so I bought a new battery.  It turns out the old battery was fine, my Variflow just needed a really high charge.  It would start off great in the morning and by early afternoon conk out unless I reduced the flow.

My other flow controller (cleaning warehouse) worked fine from the same battery. 

Luckily enough I blew the Variflow by connecting the battery up wrong one morning, so wired my pressure switch back up, and now work without a flow controller, which I much MUCH prefer.

Because of my experience with the Variflow, I would never recommend one.  Flog it on ebay and work without it!

king marko

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2012, 11:14:18 pm »
Tosh - its a streamline controller mate
Not sure if there any diff tho ??

lyndy

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2012, 07:58:49 am »
Think you need to re-cal it,because your pump is worn

Tom White

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2012, 08:19:26 am »
Flow controllers are rubbish, just get rid and work without one.  You get a good high flow rate and no problems.

Manufacturers make them so they're easily broken; they're also expensive, and they waste your time having to fanny about with them.

I make Wor Lass use one, 'cos she's not satisfied unless she's spent a minute on a fifteen-second window, but I just blast through them with a high flow rate.

Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2012, 12:32:36 pm »
Tosh, right mate, i just use a flowjoet 60psi no controller and it is fine flowrate

Spruce

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Re: Digital flow control flashing 'bat' - any thoughts??
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2012, 01:39:03 pm »
The reason why flow controllers became popular with window cleaners is that we were suffering from burnt out pressure switches. This was especially a problem with Shurflo pumps. The electronic speed and pressure controllers bypassed that problem, and for us have worked well over the years.

In the 'early' days we had a 5 litre pump supplying a brush with 2 x 3mm jets through a 1/2" garden hose. The problem was 2 fold - far too much water was wasted as we couldn't work fast enough with whippy ali poles and heavy vikan brushes, and if we tried to reduce the flow, our pump cycled, which was responsible for premature pressure switch failure.

Peter Fogwill included a bypass valve in his pump box so the pump could run flat out and we could reduce some of the flow to the brush head. I found this very unsatisfactory in practise though. He also still has a diagram on his website on how to wire up a seperate on/off HD relay that will save the load put across the contacts of the pressure switch.

When Williamson Pumps brought out the Varistream this was magic as far as we were concerned and the only problem we have had is with the latest one is that it needs a seperate isolator switch to switch everything off at night or it just drains the battery.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)