[*Hector*]

come on Trev.... that is the oldest analogy in the industry and is totally irrelevant now..... 

[Jamie Pearson]

When your shirt is dirty, do you spray some stuff on it and give it a wipe, or do you wash it and then give it a good rinse???

I throw it away and buy another one. After all I am a scientologist and don't believe it he use of detergents.

[Len Gribble]

Clarkey

These ant a bad machines (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mytee-Speedster-Carpet-Cleaning-Machine-2-x-New-Vacuums-New-2-jet-Wand-/140809309833?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c8e38e89) or (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carpet-Cleaning-Machine-Airflex-Pro-/271037276909?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3f1b14a2ed)

For LM (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cleanfix-Dual-Speed-Floor-polishing-scrubber-carpet-cleaning-machine-/280941130415?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item41696572af)
It’s worth £150 to £200 max

Nothing will replace hwe apart from logistics and costs of doing the job


Think Hector over paid for his , mine cost £20quid plus £5quid for some hammerite following weekend made £3k

Think you will be quid’s in for some type of training and marketing

[john martin]

  above speedster not bad  , but  ...

  highest heater iv seen on a speedster is 2000w ..

  For not much more u could get a new Altec elite 100 with 3000w  , independent stacks , warranty .

  As for the Jag  , aren't the owners getting cranky with no heater , crappy body and a weedy 9 HG   

 What about the  Enforcer with cool design , choice of two onboard heaters and 17.5 HG     
   

 
 

[neil 47]

what cleans carpets . not a hwe machine, or a rotary the most important thing is the solution , next the vacuum
cleaner , then the agitation. rotary all day long for me , haven't used the hwe machine for months(on full jobs , but have on very greasy areas on odd occasions)  the customers are happy we get repeats recommendations .
 
its you lot that have the problem we offer both, 99% go for lm just did a full college 3 of us in 3 days never in this world could we have done that with hwe and it looks great

did a reception area 4 months ago stains all over went back last week still looks good , its all in your own tiny little minds the bigger your investment in hwe machines the more you deny it , it took me years but have seen the light thanks to roger , keep on sucking lads .

Just bought another rotary this week


Neil

[Richard Cole]

what cleans carpets . not a hwe machine, or a rotary the most important thing is the solution , next the vacuum
cleaner , then the agitation. rotary all day long for me , haven't used the hwe machine for months(on full jobs , but have on very greasy areas on odd occasions)  the customers are happy we get repeats recommendations .
 
its you lot that have the problem we offer both, 99% go for lm just did a full college 3 of us in 3 days never in this world could we have done that with hwe and it looks great

did a reception area 4 months ago stains all over went back last week still looks good , its all in your own tiny little minds the bigger your investment in hwe machines the more you deny it , it took me years but have seen the light thanks to roger , keep on sucking lads .

Just bought another rotary this week


Neil

What rotary do you use Neil?

[Xtremely Clean]

what cleans carpets . not a hwe machine, or a rotary the most important thing is the solution , next the vacuum
cleaner , then the agitation. rotary all day long for me , haven't used the hwe machine for months(on full jobs , but have on very greasy areas on odd occasions)  the customers are happy we get repeats recommendations .
 
its you lot that have the problem we offer both, 99% go for lm just did a full college 3 of us in 3 days never in this world could we have done that with hwe and it looks great

did a reception area 4 months ago stains all over went back last week still looks good , its all in your own tiny little minds the bigger your investment in hwe machines the more you deny it , it took me years but have seen the light thanks to roger , keep on sucking lads .

Just bought another rotary this week


Neil

Cheers Neil, do you think the dry fusion is over rated at nearly 4k, do you have a hot rotary or a normal one, cheers.

[*Hector*]

I would say dry fusion is well over-rated.... You can do just as good a job with ordinary LM... If you want heat then pour a small amount of boiling water from the kettle on the pad just prior to padding.

[neil 47]

We have 2 taski rangers , havnt used dry fusion but why pay thousands when u can get a good rotary for under £400

there is solutions that stain block without heat , pour hot water on your pad if needed.

the SOULION,CHEMICAL does the work hwe only rinse's thats it I have used hwe side by side on lots of jobs with only a 10% visible difference in appearance , its not worth the hassle, or money.

the benefits out weigh the !0%  its the future

[creighton foyle]

i'm with neil on this one and even though i use a dry fusion machine and find it very good i also use a host with equally good results.
I did have an airflex which i bought new and it was an excellent machine but as i only used it four times in 18 months i sold it. if you are thinking of a hwe machine look at the suppliers reputation as well as the machine , matt at cleansmart has got a good name as has rob at altec, as for the other machine that looks like a plastic box on pram wheels you either love it or hate it.

when i did the ncca training course they reckon 80% of the dry soil comes out of the carpet when you vac so the other 20% is mostly the visible dirt you can see on the carpet surface so as i usually manage to get rid of this through bonneting or using the host the customer is left satisfied that they have a clean carpet.

do i think bonneting cleans better than hwe ? definately not

do i care ? nope

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

see a can of worms 

 

[Xtremely Clean]

see a can of worms 

 

lol

[*Hector*]

[Len Gribble]

clarkey

We use LM (numatic not twin speed) on all of our void work (you wana see the state of them) not one complaint and they like to complain . A good vacuum is needed we use dart.

As for DF ok if your contract buys it  (do have concerns re heater with the rubber belt ok with domestics/small commercial short bursts. On the plus side think they pass you work) normal rotary is good enough, post bonnets also help drying (a bit more friction) and get more dirt out.

Don’t forget the OP machines (don’t see them on ebay)

[Xtremely Clean]

Thanks len

[Phillip Mold]

Why can't we all adopt the same policy to these questions................


Please search previous posts?

[Xtremely Clean]

Why can't we all adopt the same policy to these questions................


Please search previous posts?

Why?

[richie]

Both LM and HWE have a place in carpet cleaning.  I have had awesome results with both.  LM will clean carpets however it has limitations.  Theres no way to deep clean using LM.  By saying that i am not knocking it just purely it has limitations.  HWE on the other hand is perfect for 97% of jobs from carpets that already look clean down to pubs and clubs that are covered in black top.

[Kinver_Clean]

I have done acres LM. While the rinse water gets pretty mucky and needs frequent changing it is never the same as the non splashing treacle like stuff got out of commercial carpets using CWE ( I don't use hot water )
Using LM the carpet looks clean and is on the surface but deep down......

[*Hector*]

Rinse water Trev?? 

such an outdated way to LM clean.... 

Using LM the carpet looks clean and is on the surface

What is the customer going to pay you for??

It is no good saying "sorry mrs custard, I know your carpet does not look as clean as Hector did it, but it is clean all the way down....."

She will say bring back Hector at least the carpet looked as though it had been cleaned..   

and are you saying that your mate Nicks chems will not clean all the way down??