[petermaybury]

Where have you done your training Paul?
A residual insecticide is crucial, regardless of the developement time of the target species. IGR have their use but in a different aspect.
Why are you discussing a subject like this on a carpet cleaning forum do you not think it would be a better option to join a pest control forum where you can talk about the subject responsibly with like minded people?
Peter

[Ian Gourlay]

In my post I was asking if anyone new of any training course that specialized in fleas.

I know you can due a full pest control course and get certificates etc.

I also referred that you do not need certificates , according to a recent Panarama on rat infestation anybody can set themselves up in The Pest Control business

I also said up to now I have always suggested people call local Council but like many Councils are pest control service is no longer.

So there is a genuine opportunity for Carpet Cleaners in Fleas Bed Bugs etc  but best to learn about it and not just by chemicals from suppliers and get a certificate as we do for other forms of cleaning.

Peter you seem to know where did you train?

[Neil Williams]

Yes, come on Peter enlighten us with who does the industry required training, where and how much.

[Paul Moss]

Peter im discussing a problem like this on here as YOUR asking all the questions you donut   :

My training was with the RIPHH up to consultancy level in lots of hygiene disciplines, I even had my own  training and examination centre up untill 2004  with RIPHH. If you would like to check out my credentials with the Royal Intitute of Public Health then my consultancy/training centre number was 1519.
My training in all took about 5 years starting in 1988. I got to advanced accredited status in 1991, INCLUDING BSc MCIEH

And Peter what training credentials do you have in our industry my friend ?

[AC Pressure]

Up until now I have always left this to local council , but service is now no longer.

Although Pest Control is a Big area  apparently you do not need a pest control certificate etc ,

I would like to know more about flea control

I was watching I think it was extreme cleaners or something and they apeared to light bombs etc to fog rooms anybody know anything about these.

 I think our Local Council used to charge £60 for fleas anybody know of a good charging structure

The above is true and that is the problem because everyone thinks they can do the job. Man with a can unqualified uninsured just to earn a few quid.

[AC Pressure]

It is a big problem at the moment right across the country. I treated a bungalw last week with a major infestation. I had to use two shock treatment ozone machines for two days and then fogged the place with a pesicide to get rid. Hidden larve can still survive for many days and fleas will be present in small numbers. As long as a growth inhibiting chemical has also been used in the process along with the die chem then they will soon die off.

My local vet told me that this has been the worst year that he has ever known in 30 years of trading for fleas. We have also got a massive mosquito problem due to the amount of rain we have had this summer.

You are joking seems a little over the top to control fleas all you need to do is give the customer the correct advice as regards preperation go in treat with an approved insecticide which also contains an IGR advise customer not to vacuum for 10 to 14 days after treatment and if they have pets tell them to keep up with flea treatments.

[Paul Moss]

I just love it when people comment on jobs other people have done when they have no knowledge of it   

Not over the top at all as this was a major infestation. :

You do it your way pal and I will do it the way I feel is correct for the job and the customer.

[AC Pressure]

I just love it when people comment on jobs other people have done when they have no knowledge of it   

Not over the top at all as this was a major infestation. :

You do it your way pal and I will do it the way I feel is correct for the job and the customer.

Sorry if you are offended but why would you use shock ozone machines to treat fleas please explain how this works as i do not understand this approach.

[AC Pressure]

Peters coments are true, you need to use the correct pesicide to control fleas and i mean control them, the only way to truely kill them is by gas and that is very specialised and costly. Coliods will not do it so dont take in suppliers verb of vibrating them to death as it is marketing BS :-)

Sorry Paul you may be offended again i look forward to the angry face.

Where do you get your ideas from this is a complete load of BS is this what you tell customers so you can charge a fortune to treat. Peter is correct you do need to use the correct pesticide to control fleas however you also need to give the customer the correct advice on what to do before and after treatment. The peticide i use controles and kills them it has a good residual effect as well as an IGR it is proffesional use only. If the customer has pets DE can also be used in the pet beds. this is quite safe.

[Paul Moss]

Hey im not offened at all  

Not bad for a guy that does pressure washing for a living

[Neil Williams]

The peticide i use controles and kills them it has a good residual effect as well as an IGR it is proffesional use only. If the customer has pets DE can also be used in the pet beds. this is quite safe.

As Peter has yet again decided not to answer a direct question put to him (he has history for this), perhaps you would be kind enough to tell us what you use, where you get it, any restrictions and do you need any formal training in applying it? If you do need training where you get it?

[Paul Moss]

Neil, look it up you lazy git 

[AC Pressure]

The peticide i use controles and kills them it has a good residual effect as well as an IGR it is proffesional use only. If the customer has pets DE can also be used in the pet beds. this is quite safe.

As Peter has yet again decided not to answer a direct question put to him (he has history for this), perhaps you would be kind enough to tell us what you use, where you get it, any restrictions and do you need any formal training in applying it? If you do need training where you get it?

Ok to answer your questions.

1) What do i use: Stingray ME
2) Where i get it: Killgerm or SX Environmental
3) Any restrictions: Yes there are restrictions it is a proffesional use pesticide you should not be able to buy it if you are not qualified.
4) Formal training in applying it: Yes you should should have some training in the safe use of pesticides.
5) Where to get training: Killgerm run courses also the BPCA and the NPTA as well as SX Environmental.

Hope this helps.

[Neil Williams]

AC: Thank you very much for the info.

Paul: Yes I could have found it but I was just proving a point that some people like to offer help/information (Like AC) whilst a few just love to pick holes and tell us what we can't do without offering the information on how we could be able to do something.

[AC Pressure]

Hey im not offened at all  

Not bad for a guy that does pressure washing for a living

Glad your not offended Paul  

Yes i do pressure washing for a living as an ad on to my Pest Control Business i have the Safe use of pesticides certificate from Killgerm, i hold the RSPH level 2 certificate in pest control and am a member of both Basis Prompt (The Proffessional Pest Controllers Register) and the NPTA (National Pest Technitians Association).

can i take it that you are not going to answer the questions i asked you about your flea treatment.  

[Griffus]

There are a few hard to deal with pests knocking around the various cleaning forums 

[Jim_77]

I hope after all this confusion that some customers haven't cancelled on Mr Maybury, only to re-book with Mr Moss.... it would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul

[dan paton]

lmfao jim

[Ian Gourlay]

Perhaps we should have a pest control section, opps we have the ban button

[AshWhite]

I hope after all this confusion that some customers haven't cancelled on Mr Maybury, only to re-book with Mr Moss.... it would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul

So, Jim..how long have you been waiting for the right thread to use that one?