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debs

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WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« on: July 20, 2012, 12:31:44 am »
HI THERE, I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD ADVISE ME AS TO WHICH CARPET CLEANING MACHINE WOULD BE THE BEST TO BUY. I AM REASONABLY NEW TO THIS GAME SO DONT UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ,  ABOUT THE TECHNICAL SPEC OF THESE MACHINES. I AM LOOKING AT THE AIRFLEX STORM AND THE ASHBY ENFORCER.  :-\

Jim_77

Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 12:56:11 am »
HI THERE

NO NEED TO SHOUT WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE


:)

Search the forum and have a read through, probably take an evening or two.  This is probably THE most asked question that comes up on here so the answers are already out there to a large degree

john martin

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 01:49:16 am »
 :)    
Just sticking with the two you mentioned ,

     both have two vacuum motors , in the storm the two motors are connected in ' parallel '   this configuration optimizes airflow ( often measured in CFM )  but that comes at the expense of suction power ( measured in waterlift )  
So the Storm has about 280 CFM and about 125 " lift .

     The Enforcer has its two motors connected in ' series '  which gives it high suction (lift ) but at the expense of reduced airflow (CFM )
So the Enforcer has about 240" lift and 100 CFM

Which is best ?  Its best to research that your self as there is no quick and easy answer ....  if you google  CFM vs lift  there is a thread discussing the pros and cons of both configurations .

The Storm uses a pumptec water pump rated at 800psi ...  you could consider the 600 pump in the enforcer to be fairly identical  
Enforcer also has other pump options .

Water heater options for the Storm are limited to an external clip on heater , where as the Enforcer has the option of either an immersion heater in the watertank bottom ...  or a built in 'inline' heater (similar to the storms but built into machine )  or u could have both if u wanted . Ashbys also have external inline heaters .

Which heater is best ? an immersion heater is simple , usually cheap and reliable .
an external inline can be brought close to where your working for more consistent heat .... and a built in inline might be convenient although limited to distance from machine and could add significant weight to machine .

The storm has a gravity based waste water release system operated via remote .
Sounds high tech but its really a check valve inline and a remote power switch .
Ashbys also offer this as an option .
Ashbys also offer auto pump out , which uses a dedicated pump to release waste water as you work .
Pros and cons to both ... the autopump means you never have to switch off the machine as u work ... however they have a filter which is prone to clogging ...
The gravity based system will only empty when u switch off the machine ( via remote ) buts its less prone to failure/clogging .

Think those are the  main features of both  The enforcer has other options also , auto fill , chemical feed etc but u will pay hard for these extras ....  these machines are at the high end of the portable market ...   many would start off with lower spec machines , if u can afford them go for it , but be carefull not to blow all your money on gear only to find u have fewer customers than planned .
 

debs

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 09:47:28 pm »
THANKS JIM LOL ;D
Thank you John, you certainly know your stuff!!!

john martin

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 09:59:24 pm »
THANKS JIM LOL ;D
Thank you John, you certainly know your stuff!!!

no problem , i was just looking up the enforcer myself at the time ... god , i was up even later than jim !

mike roberts

Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 11:01:46 pm »
come on peter where r u ?? ;D

peter maybury

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 11:03:58 pm »
Have not used , read about or met anybody who has either machine.
I do not talk about things which I am not educated on.
I prefer to give out facts rather than opinions or things I think up.
Some people are full of poop and that is the way things are.
Constructive conversation is always good, most of us left the childishness behind long ago.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

mike roberts

Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 06:50:01 am »
Have not used , read about or met anybody who has either machine.
I do not talk about things which I am not educated on.
I prefer to give out facts rather than opinions or things I think up.
Some people are full of poop and that is the way things are.
Constructive conversation is always good, most of us left the childishness behind long ago.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com


My god you sound so happy, You must be a joy to work with !

neil 47

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 11:29:49 am »
get a rotary first and a cheap extractor ,then build up from that


Neil
IICRC

garybristow

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Re: WHICH MACHINE TO BUY
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 07:20:30 pm »
nice one jim ;D ;D
gary