[SPE]

could he be seeing this as an opportunity for some compo to set up on his own ?

[pncleaning]

I think you should think again about reducing his hours too much because the way I see it is it will look a bit suspect you do this just after the accident, and then maybe he could sue for constructive dismissal if he left??? unless of course all your employees hours are reduced. I would seek legal advice!!!!!! also has your injured   employee got booked in for any physio appointments??

Best of luck on this it`s hassle I am sure you can do without and I would personally look to sacking him cos how can you trust him after all this and if he did come back I would not be able to be civil with him so it will creat bad feelings.

Paul

[wightsurf]

Constructed dismissal could be a bigger pay out don't cut the hrs.
In fact offer him his full hrs on foot,whilst you seek the right advise.
He want work because of the whiplash but it shows you have tried to
Take the right steps.

[Ian101]

Hi Bobby - from previous life I have experiance of employment laws etc etc - give us a call if u want some pointers this afternoon 0754 006 5555

[andyM]

I know this is interesting and is relevant to our occupation but if I was you Bobby I wouldn't discuss this on the forum any further until the situation is resolved.
You never know who might be reading this.

[Ian101]

Good advice Andy

[pncleaning]

Hi Bobby - from previous life I have experiance of employment laws etc etc - give us a call if u want some pointers this afternoon 0754 006 5555

I would still advise him to see a brief that covers employment issues

[Ian101]

Hi Bobby - from previous life I have experiance of employment laws etc etc - give us a call if u want some pointers this afternoon 0754 006 5555

I would still advise him to see a brief that covers employment issues

yup defo ... of course will be telling Bobby that but can put his mind at ease with a few things straight away .. but not on the forum as u never know who is reading 

[pncleaning]

Hi Bobby - from previous life I have experiance of employment laws etc etc - give us a call if u want some pointers this afternoon 0754 006 5555

I would still advise him to see a brief that covers employment issues

yup defo ... of course will be telling Bobby that but can put his mind at ease with a few things straight away .. but not on the forum as u never know who is reading 

I think thats kind of you Ian to help another windy out  I totally agree with not putting it on this forum. Employment laws can be a bit of a minefield and have to be treated with care as the employee has so many rights. Also I am sure Bobby does not want to give this guy a chance of  another compo claim, as he seems to be TROUBLE.

[simon w]

Bobby I should think that the abusive text messages he sent you are grounds alone for gross misconduct if not criminal charges brought by the Police  : I cant imagine many company directors or business owners allowing abusive text messages being sent to them without issuing a P45

Hope you get things resolved and all the kit inside your van was intact after the smash.

[bobby p]

update-  hes now set up on his own , got a van same colour as the one he wrecked , will he canvass my customers pretending hes still workin for me- its a nightmare if he does

[CLEANCARE WC]

GET ROUND TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS! and tell them HE IS NO LONGER WORKING FOR YOU AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

I.E. HE CRASHED YOUR VAN IS MEANT TO BE ON THE SICK, STABBING YOU IN THE BACK AND NOT A VERY NICE CHARACTER

[*Hector*]

I take it that you didn't get him to sign a "no competition" type clause then?

If he is now set up on his own, and is meant to be throwing a sickie, then get evidence of his working and offer to enlighten the insurance company that he is claiming wiplash from if he does not desist in canvassing your customers.

Then get on the phone to all your customers and tell them to beware of what is going on.

[Londoner]

I would sack him outright and say sue me.  Then I would get round all your customers double quick and put a stop to his game.
This is the nightmare of employing people

[SPE]

could he be seeing this as an opportunity for some compo to set up on his own ?

what did I say ?
break his legs (just make sure there are no witnesses)

seriously though, sounds like a nightmare, what a scumbag

[andyM]

I take it that you didn't get him to sign a "no competition" type clause then?

If he is now set up on his own, and is meant to be throwing a sickie, then get evidence of his working and offer to enlighten the insurance company that he is claiming wiplash from if he does not desist in canvassing your customers.
Then get on the phone to all your customers and tell them to beware of what is going on.

I reckon that's what I would do.
He's out of order if he does go after your customers Bobby ,so I would do what I could to make it hard for him.
Especially if he is putting a claim in for whiplash it will show that his injury was only very minor if he was even injured at all.
 

[Ian101]

Ignore him and keep distance just tell your customers whats going on cos this little fecker will twist it

had a crash ... not my fault .. boss sacked me ... had to set up on my own to bring money in cos bad old boss sacked me .. etc etc

guy sounds a waster so he soon get fed up of running his own business.

before you ignore him just tell him that your going to save him the hassle of registering with inland revenue etc etc as you will be doing it for him ... dss as well.

 

[*Hector*]

you could also phone all your custards and say that although he worked for you until recently, you found out he was an illegal immigrant, and had to let him go. I don't think many will want his services after that.. 

[bobby p]

the injury claim firms kept bugging me for info about the crash, i ignored them but in the end told one persistent guy  that i had only 1 word to say about the claim...  "Rubbish"... as i see him walking about ,driving same as ever  and the guy said that my ex worker had been telling them none of it was his fault and that  due to whiplash he might   be "paralysed from the eyes down "-  etc  
 
 the guy and i had a good laugh about the stupidity of the bloke and he knew i was telling the truth and wouldnt bother me again ,(even offered to help me speed up the van insurance claim process ) ,

i reckon the chance of a payout is slim !  

[bobby p]

you could also phone all your custards and say that although he worked for you until recently, you found out he was an illegal immigrant, and had to let him go. I don't think many will want his services after that.. 

thats a good one, i will be using that i feel .  cheers!