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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2012, 12:22:23 am »
Just seen a post on this site which made me cringe and got me thinking what most (edited to say many ) *my mistake* people lack in this business that we are in.

what are your thoughts, what do you think many window cleaners lack ?

Generally interested in what others think (this is not a knocking post)
 
What do you think it is?

Window Washers

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2012, 12:24:03 am »
Just seen a post on this site which made me cringe and got me thinking what most (edited to say many ) *my mistake* people lack in this business that we are in.

what are your thoughts, what do you think many window cleaners lack ?

Generally interested in what others think (this is not a knocking post)
 
What do you think it is?
knowledge is one of them imo, what about you ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2012, 12:35:27 am »
That kinda goes with the terrority though. Not many 'educated' people would turn round and become a window cleaner. How many uni grads on this forum for example?

I would say the biggest thing i see, is there is no long term view. Lack of vision.

Window Washers

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2012, 01:26:48 am »
That kinda goes with the terrority though. Not many 'educated' people would turn round and become a window cleaner. How many uni grads on this forum for example?

I would say the biggest thing i see, is there is no long term view. Lack of vision.
there is a doctor on here that does window cleaning, lack of vision maybe right, anyone else ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2012, 02:19:56 am »
Window cleaning will become the next big industry like plumbing, a few years ago there were loads of stories in the press about ex city boys becoming plumbers to make a good living. Window cleaning will do the same over the next few years....

Industry knowledge has nothing to do with education....

A lot of people on here are scared of growth because the have no experience, or they think that franchising is the only route to growth....

Steve Sed

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2012, 04:22:10 am »
That kinda goes with the terrority though. Not many 'educated' people would turn round and become a window cleaner. How many uni grads on this forum for example?


I am and I have seen others on here say they are who I have no reason to doubt. It suits me and it is outrageously well paid for a relatively unskilled job.

Frankybadboy

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2012, 06:16:37 am »
common sense ;)

just ask trippy ;D

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2012, 06:48:06 am »
They lack the understanding they all work in the same industry, which make it im
possible to improve there lot and hone us into a industry.

What they do have is a opinion and do not think for a minute what one needs is an informed opinion.
Opinions are a worthless human right.

What we don't have is respect for ourselves or each other.This is the reason why me do not receive respect and recognition.

We do not understand union of per direction
we are not open to leadership.

AS well as all the very valid  points above. :-[ :-[

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2012, 07:19:41 am »
That kinda goes with the terrority though. Not many 'educated' people would turn round and become a window cleaner. How many uni grads on this forum for example?

I would say the biggest thing i see, is there is no long term view. Lack of vision.
there is a doctor on here that does window cleaning, lack of vision maybe right, anyone else ?

Seriously? I would pretty much put money on that being the only one in the UK!

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2012, 07:22:20 am »
That kinda goes with the terrority though. Not many 'educated' people would turn round and become a window cleaner. How many uni grads on this forum for example?


I am and I have seen others on here say they are who I have no reason to doubt. It suits me and it is outrageously well paid for a relatively unskilled job.

Ok, so there is one. Maybe a few more, but considering how many window cleaners are on this forum (1000 or so???) I guess it's less than 1%.

Londoner

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2012, 08:18:20 am »
The thing that window cleaners lack the most is hassle, dickhead managers and difficult meetings. Its virtually a cast iron safe job. I don't understand why people want to ruin it with marketing babble. Out cleaning windows yesterday in the sun, not a care in the world. If you want to be the next Alan Sugar why pick window cleaning as the place to start?.

gary999

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2012, 08:21:29 am »
nope just a brain would help  most or a banjo ;D

leave it! ;D

Londoner

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2012, 08:26:35 am »
Window cleaning will become the next big industry like plumbing, a few years ago there were loads of stories in the press about ex city boys becoming plumbers to make a good living. Window cleaning will do the same over the next few years....

Industry knowledge has nothing to do with education....

A lot of people on here are scared of growth because the have no experience, or they think that franchising is the only route to growth....

A person I know was made redundant recently and did a plumbing course. Most of the people on his course were only doing it to get their points up to emigrate to Australia. Stories of people doing plumbing courses does not necessarily mean there are good jobs at the end of the course.

I have several ex-City types among my customers. Retraining as teachers seems to be favourite

Erithwc

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2012, 08:33:30 am »
I will pick holes in myself the Business skills i lack can be fixed with time  ;D ;D

list of faults are :

Telephone manner talking over the customers on the phone.
Need to do a few courses H&S, marketing & wfp skills ect.
Spelling and gramar needs improving

as my business grows so will I  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Regards Paul


Paul Coleman

Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2012, 08:35:57 am »
Belief is a good one, so many people I have met over the years could achieve great things but are held back by the belief that its "only window cleaning"....

It is a very good answer.  Probably the best one I've seen in this thread,

dazmond

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2012, 08:44:34 am »
from my experience a lot of window cleaners lack

TEETH!

THE ABILITY TO STAY OFF THE DRINK!

UNDERPRICE JOBS BECAUSE THEY DONT THINK THEY CAN CHARGE MORE!

SEEM TO FORGET THAT WINDOWS HAVE FRAMES AS WELL SO DONT CLEAN THEM! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


luckily for me i found a good dentist,sought help to get sober,clean frames,doors and sills as a standard clean so charge more than i used to and i just attract work based on my new attitude and professional approach to my work!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

Ian Lancaster

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2012, 10:15:49 am »
The thing that window cleaners lack the most is hassle, dickhead managers and difficult meetings. Its virtually a cast iron safe job. I don't understand why people want to ruin it with marketing babble. Out cleaning windows yesterday in the sun, not a care in the world. If you want to be the next Alan Sugar why pick window cleaning as the place to start?.

Because grass cutting has already been done.  Jim Penman, Australian entrepreneur has a world wide, umpteen thousand member organisation based on regular mowing of lawns.

There's an enormous gap for the first window cleaner to follow in his footsteps.

stuart mc

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2012, 11:07:40 am »
from my experience a lot of window cleaners lack

TEETH!

THE ABILITY TO STAY OFF THE DRINK!

UNDERPRICE JOBS BECAUSE THEY DONT THINK THEY CAN CHARGE MORE!

SEEM TO FORGET THAT WINDOWS HAVE FRAMES AS WELL SO DONT CLEAN THEM! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


luckily for me i found a good dentist,sought help to get sober,clean frames,doors and sills as a standard clean so charge more than i used to and i just attract work based on my new attitude and professional approach to my work!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oi you just described me >:(

 ;D ;D

Perfect Windows

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2012, 01:28:05 pm »
Vision.

Most windys I know are self-employed but have an 'employed' mentality, namely they get some money for cleaning some windows.  Running it as a business requires vision.  Running it as a business doesn't necessarily mean growing it, just running it to make as much money for as little effort as possible.  So, running it as a business might just make you richer or it might just give you more time with your kids, both worthwhile goals.

But most of the windys I meet don't have that vision and never will.

Vin

gary999

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Re: what do you think many window cleaners lack ?
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2012, 01:55:19 pm »
not knocking you perfect, but remember not everyone shares the same vision



just aswell really because there isnt room for everyone to be alan sugar :)