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Poll

What is your take on it?

I couldn't care less as long as it doesn't affect my earnings
38.2%
29 (38.2%)
I do what I can to reduce water use
44.7%
34 (44.7%)
I change my work methods to save water
10.5%
8 (10.5%)
I harvest rainwater so not a prob
6.6%
5 (6.6%)

Total Members Voted: 62

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2012, 09:59:48 pm »
And my RO waste needs little treatment - helps dilute all the soapy stuff from washing clothes (and scrims and applicators from tradders  ;D ) and dishes and ourselves. Makes it easier to process.


 ;D ;D ;D

d s windowcleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2012, 11:22:23 pm »
Some things to think about......

Some window cleaners have had water boards come round looking for leaks because of the amount of water used to fill up a 1000L tank every day

If you use an RO set up then to fill up your 1000L tank your looking at actually consuming around 4000L plus of water with 3000L of drinking water going down the drain.

Fresh water is a finite resource - should we be bothered about how much water we use?
re-cycle the waste water through a second 200 gpd ro unit re-cycle the waste from the second ro unit into a 3rd unit using low pressure membranes and how much waste water do i have PER 1000 LTRS  waste water dosnt and shouldnt mean waste by going back down a drain the waste can go into a extra 1000ltr ibc tank and be used for washing cars IN A BUCKET , water is all around us shame the water companys dont use there heads and reCLAIM SOME OF THIS WASTE WATER BACK .
where theres muck theres money

keyser soze

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2012, 11:57:22 pm »
The figures quoted in the OP are IMO way out of the ordinary. I checked my R.O.s production rate yesterday and it was

43% production/57% waste.

Ive no idea where 25% production/75% waste comes from.
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i thought the same... starting to wonder if im set up correctly

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2012, 05:44:05 am »
Some things to think about......

Some window cleaners have had water boards come round looking for leaks because of the amount of water used to fill up a 1000L tank every day

If you use an RO set up then to fill up your 1000L tank your looking at actually consuming around 4000L plus of water with 3000L of drinking water going down the drain.

Fresh water is a finite resource - should we be bothered about how much water we use?
re-cycle the waste water through a second 200 gpd ro unit re-cycle the waste from the
second ro unit into a 3rd unit using low pressure membranes and how much waste water do i have PER 1000 LTRS  waste water dosnt and shouldnt mean waste by going back down a drain the waste can go into a extra 1000ltr ibc tank and be used for washing cars IN A BUCKET , water is all around us shame the water companys dont use there heads and reCLAIM SOME OF THIS WASTE WATER BACK .

You cannot just keep adding R O as you will reach point when all the waste will come out with no pure as the water will become saturated with impurities. Also you cannot wash cars as it will leave heavy water marks and if that drays you will battle to get them off. No one is stopping using it on the garden  but it will kill the plant eventual as impurities of heavy metals build up in the soil.    

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2012, 05:55:38 am »

Also you cannot wash cars as it will leave heavy water marks and if that drays you will battle to get them off. No one is stopping using it on the garden  but it will kill the plant eventual as impurities of heavy metals build up in the soil.    
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Really?  I hadnt realised this.ive reused this water, and it no worse than some areas i have live in with what comes out of the tap (which for us is around 120-180).  Ive not seen any problems with grass or flowers dieing in past 2 years, and when i had the set up at home, it felt better watering the garden with it as opposed to going down the drain, tho i suppose going down the drain means it gets to water board quicker for re use!!  :-[

Londoner

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2012, 07:24:07 am »
The figures quoted in the OP are IMO way out of the ordinary. I checked my R.O.s production rate yesterday and it was

43% production/57% waste.

Ive no idea where 25% production/75% waste comes from.

What system are you using?

H S and Son

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2012, 11:36:02 am »
Bulk standard PureFreedom 300 GPD.

one eyed window cleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2012, 02:14:24 pm »
I dont use wfp on ground floor dont see the point unless your a new boy and not up to speed on trad
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2012, 03:42:50 pm »
I dont use wfp on ground floor dont see the point unless your a new boy and not up to speed on trad

I'm as quick as the next bloke trad, helped by being 6 foot 1 tall, but it's way quicker for me to wfp the lot. while your there with your brush it takes seconds to clean a ground floor window.

gary999

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2012, 03:46:52 pm »
I dont use wfp on ground floor dont see the point unless your a new boy and not up to speed on trad

mmmm sorry qucker just using wfp

Sean Dyer

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2012, 06:55:24 pm »
We pay for what we use , its the water companies problem to make sure we dont run out

They could always charge more if they have nothing to invest!

They don't look after it properly

one eyed window cleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2012, 08:17:55 pm »
So you dont allow drip time then from top windows trading for 11 xears wfp 5 years
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

one eyed window cleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2012, 08:31:56 pm »
The point is how we can save water and the best way must be to trad ground floor or maybe some of us are to lazy to do our bit.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders? New
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2012, 08:36:45 pm »
So you dont allow drip time then from top windows trading for 11 xears wfp 5 years

Hi ascs2002 welcome to posting on the forum - perhaps you might look at your methods? If you do (on a semi say) the upper fronts that are above lower windows first then the other uppers above say extensions and porches then the bottoms are not getting any appreciable drips from above by the time you get back to them.

If you work this sensibly - say uppers on front and side then bottoms front and side then upper backs above windows then upper backs above walls, conny's or extensions then lowers you don't have to wait for drips stopping.

Indeed if I were to trad bottoms I'd be more nervous about the odd drip from above.

Just read your last post prior to my posting this - don't forget you came in to this thread posting about new boys not tradding because theey were not up to speed - it lessens your argument to bring in the "saving water" bit after that.
It's a game of three halves!

Dougaldum

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2012, 09:24:14 pm »
So you dont allow drip time then from top windows trading for 11 xears wfp 5 years

Hi ascs2002 welcome to posting on the forum - perhaps you might look at your methods? If you do (on a semi say) the upper fronts that are above lower windows first then the other uppers above say extensions and porches then the bottoms are not getting any appreciable grips from above by the time you get back to them.

If you work this sensibly - say uppers on front and side then bottoms front and side then upper backs above windows then upper backs above walls, conny's or extensions then lowers you don't have to wait for drips stopping.

Indeed if I were to trad bottoms I'd be more nervous about the odd drip from above.

Just read your last post prior to my posting this - don't forget you came in to this thread posting about new boys not tradding because theey were not up to speed - it lessens your argument to bring in the "saving water" bit after that.
i do the same just ups wfp downs trad just use about 100 to 200 liters aday and that is with rian water going thorw my di never had to use tap water i live in sunny wales 8)

one eyed window cleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2012, 10:27:40 pm »
dose any one get that you do ground floor wfp so the customer can see the haw well you clean l wfp 4 to 6 houses in a row thn go back and trad the ground floor may be l am lucky to have a round which becomes dence whenever l move to ne road etc happy customers recomend . And yes we all know what windows to do first and last
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2012, 10:56:26 pm »
dose any one get that you do ground floor wfp so the customer can see the haw well you clean l wfp 4 to 6 houses in a row thn go back and trad the ground floor may be l am lucky to have a round which becomes dence whenever l move to ne road etc happy customers recomend . And yes we all know what windows to do first and last

Sorry I don't understand your post.
It's a game of three halves!

one eyed window cleaning

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2012, 11:37:24 pm »
I say no more . So doing trad on ground floor wilnot save waterLOL
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

bad trippy

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Re: Moral issue for drought orders?
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2012, 12:38:37 am »
In short, my moral for drought orders are as follows
1 fe ck em
2 fook em
3 I dont give a flying toss
4 Do i feel guilty? (let you boys answer that)
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