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richywilts

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Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« on: February 20, 2012, 11:23:36 pm »
Could my girlfriend open a domestic cleaning business and run it separately to my business??
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

stuart mc

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 11:27:07 pm »
yes, keep trying get my wife to do it, but she will not, she prefers being employed, so I offered to employ her ??? still said no

so she works for £6 an hour doing domestic cleaning ???

wpclean

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 11:30:09 pm »
Without knowing your girlfriend it would be impossible to say  ;D

spongebob

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 11:30:32 pm »
If it were done to avoid VAT you would struggle. If you live /trade from the same address as her then no. If you were cleaning and she was running say a garage or childminding or something not similar then you would be ok.
You could even be a partner in her business. Think you would struggle to get the vat man to swallow it.

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 11:31:51 pm »
As long as its a complete stand alone business then yes but you cant even share a stapler. They are really strict about this kind of stuff cos people do it to avoid vat mainly...

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 11:37:03 pm »
If you trade from the unit and she trades from home then it should be fine but to be honest the best person to ask is your accountant...

stuart mc

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 11:42:14 pm »
If it were done to avoid VAT you would struggle. If you live /trade from the same address as her then no. If you were cleaning and she was running say a garage or childminding or something not similar then you would be ok.
You could even be a partner in her business. Think you would struggle to get the vat man to swallow it.


it is two completely separate businesses, she raises her invoices, he raises his, different bank accounts, different trading names, and yes why couldn't he rent a space in his unit to her as long as he charged her rental, but there is no need for that it could be run from home 

richywilts

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 01:13:43 am »
It was hypothetical question just wondering I was thinking of putting it in her name but I run it for her
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Ian Rochester

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 06:16:45 am »
Richy

Does your mind never stop ???:D

One minute you are talking about getting rid of everyone and consolodating on what you have, now you are talking about expanding again???

Does your girlfriend want to set up a domestic cleaning business, or is it a case of you wanting her to set up a domestic cleaning business?

If you are wanting separation between the two businesses in the eyes of the taxman, then it has to be that, separate accounts, insurance, vehicles, business names, etc.  If you do someones windows and domestic cleaning they have to pay separately, any crossover and the taxman will have you.

We run 8 cleaners doing domestic and commercial work and to be honest the domestic side is a nightmare and not really worth the hassle.  You are competing again the "cash in hand" brigade, even more so than window cleaning as anyone can do domestic cleaning and they do if for £5-6 an hour.  :-\

Frankybadboy

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 06:46:47 am »
ian thats richy all over ;D ;D ;D ;D

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 07:05:01 am »
Richy will go very far

Erithwc

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 07:56:51 am »
Could my girlfriend open a domestic cleaning business and run it separately to my business??

If this is the girl friend that you broke up with last week i would say know because the next time you brake up she will take her business with her  :o :o

The only time i would have a partner do anything with my business is when im married to her as they can take half of the business anyway then so it wouldn't matter  ;)

H S and Son

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 07:57:09 am »
I thought they'd split up the last time he mentioned her.

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 08:54:16 am »
Richy

Why don't you spend your time on getting you business to work, forget all of these wild dreams to avoid tax and be a wheeler and dealer, you are not a Robert Maxwell, you will get caught and you will go to prison and lose the lot.

Remember its not hard for the tax man to do checks on you, a simple internet search, and this topic will be flagged, you might as well go the full hog and sign your comfession.

If you want to avoid vat, then do the following, only get commercial customers who are vat registred, stay below the vat threshold or go down the franshise route, but at some stage you will reach the limit and have to pay it.

Or the simple way, add 20% to your prices. 

H S and Son

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 01:01:40 pm »
a simple internet search, and this topic will be flagged,

No it wont, google doesnt access this forum.

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 01:33:28 pm »
you think that the taxman doesn't know about this site 8)

gary999

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Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 01:56:50 pm »
i reckon old richy should forget window cleaning

and become a standup comedian he always has me in stitches
when i read his posts ;D

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 02:12:12 pm »
a simple internet search, and this topic will be flagged,

No it wont, google doesnt access this forum.

I have in the past, done searches on the web and links to this and other forums are shown, does this not happen anymore?

H S and Son

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 03:26:28 pm »
a simple internet search, and this topic will be flagged,

No it wont, google doesnt access this forum.

I have in the past, done searches on the web and links to this and other forums are shown, does this not happen anymore?

These are the results for your user name on here with 'Cleanitup Sr. Member' included in the search phrase

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=pure+hydro+cleaners+cleanitup+sr.+member&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=3LdDT5GAJefD0QWH-IGPDw

Illustrating that Google doesn't frequent this site, but it does go to Matts forum, but we all knew that didn't we as it shows GoogleBot in the members online on his forum quite frequently.


you think that the taxman doesn't know about this site 8)

No, I expect he does know about it. But it's pointless him coming on here and seeing someone posting who calls themself 'Shiny Windows' who claims to have earn't £300 quid on a saturday morning, that means nothing to him. However, you said an internet search would bring CIU info on here for him. It won't.


I'd also bet my bottom dollar the taxman knows about this site but takes about as much notice of it as listening to some drunken bum down the pub bragging about his earnings. It means nothing. Its not proof of anything, it wouldnt stand up in a court of law and half the guys on here quite possibly could be 16 year olds bragging about this that or the other. The taxman is hardly going to try to chase those guys is he, more solid evidence is what theyre likely to require. If you have nothing to hide there's nothing to concern yourself with anyway.

Re: Could my girlfriend run a seperate domestic cleaning business
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2012, 03:42:47 pm »
But we talking about Richy :( and if its going to go wrong, well he is the man ;D