[Dave Willis]

Who stocks this one?

http://www.springltd.co/node/67

How much please.

[taylored]

dont think you can buy it yet i looked at all the links today and no one had them in.

[Ian Sheppard]

Who stocks this one?

http://www.springltd.co/node/67

How much please.

Hi Mark

We are physically building these new analogues this week with dispatch to distributors toward the end of the next week. Should be available by the end of the month.

[Alex Gardiner]

Who stocks this one?

http://www.springltd.co/node/67

How much please.

Hi Mark Etting

We have a production run of these units on order (have now for about 6-8 months) and will be receiving them by the end of the month. They will be priced at a very similar price to the digital versions.

[Craig Trevain]

window cleaning warehouse
cleaning spot    etc  etc will all have them,          im sure spring are making enough for all supplyers !!!!!!

[paul saunders]

window cleaning warehouse
cleaning spot    etc  etc will all have them,          im sure spring are making enough for all supplyers !!!!!!

Don't forget Gardiners as well Craig. 

[taylored]

yes craig the people whos poles your hinting at needing glue all the time on your website

[Dave Willis]

Thanks all. I'll stick with Gardiners when they come in. Always been good to me over the years.

[Lee GLS]

window cleaning warehouse
cleaning spot    etc  etc will all have them,          im sure spring are making enough for all supplyers !!!!!!

Don't forget Gardiners as well Craig. 

 

[Spruce]

Looks good 

[carl stanton]

only one person kind of answered the qustion

how much    thank you 

[Ian Sheppard]

To answer yes they will be available from our distributors, As for price that is down to the distributors.
They are likely to be close to the existing digital price wise.

This is a completely new control we have combined the digital technology with a easy to use two switch front panel.

We have reduced the battery cut off with these new units to 10.5V, while you still have pressure switch detection - DE detection.

[Deangsi]

i would be interested in the one with the remote control, are these available anywhere now ?

[bobplum]

what benefits would you gain by having one of these compared to the existing controllers

[David Thomson]

Does the unit charge the leisure battery?

[Ian Sheppard]

To answer the 3 questions above.

1. No as yet the new analogue are not fitted with a remote control. The control will be available by the end of the month from our distributors.
2. Benefits: This is a new control and new board
A) Accurate Battery voltage monitoring of voltage in the battery
B) Battery cut off 10.5V against 11V for the current V9 Digital - work longer.
C) New DE test while in DE, The new V11 board does not increase pressure in your system while in DE, still works with the pressure switch for additional system protection.

3. These analogues do not have a built in split relay ( the digital charging control does ) That said they are lots of cleaners out there who have fitted separate split relays into their vehicles to charge a leisure battery.

[dd]

better to have a separate split charge relay so if the water controller breaks down/wears out and needs replacing you do not need to pay extra for one with relay charger built in.

[Spruce]

To answer the 3 questions above.

1. No as yet the new analogue are not fitted with a remote control. The control will be available by the end of the month from our distributors.
2. Benefits: This is a new control and new board
A) Accurate Battery voltage monitoring of voltage in the battery
B) Battery cut off 10.5V against 11V for the current V9 Digital - work longer.
C) New DE test while in DE, The new V11 board does not increase pressure in your system while in DE, still works with the pressure switch for additional system protection.

3. These analogues do not have a built in split relay ( the digital charging control does ) That said they are lots of cleaners out there who have fitted separate split relays into their vehicles to charge a leisure battery.

Hi Ian

Interesting that you have lowered the battery cutoff voltage to 10.5v.

From 2 different websites, they say that at 11.9v and 11.8v respectively that a leisure battery is 'fully discharged'. I'm I right to presume then that the voltage would read less under load if the battery was at that point (11.8v), so this measure will squeeze a little more from a flat battery. Will this be detremental to the longevity of a leisure battery if this was done frequently?

I ask this as the majority of us can't say for any certainty what the stage of charge of our batteries are at any given moment - me included.

Spruce

[Ian Sheppard]

Hi Spruce I wish I could give a straight forward answer but here goes

To a point yes the voltage is measured at the controller while the system is under load (pump running) so with the current controller you will see a lower voltage at the control than measured at the battery

It a seems an illusive answer as to when the battery is considered discharged, I wonder if the manufacturers advise 11.8 and 11.9 to cover themselves as In our experience the battery will go lower than that and function well.

To answer the question how much is battery life shortened by continually running it low. There is no easy answer
Because it depends on so many factors EG water flow rate - efficiency of the pump and motor - running a controller or not and other factors.

It always strikes me that you have found the optimum setting for your own system and I was interested that you have checked the average pressure at the pump 55PSI. This allows you to run a system efficiently and get the best from your equipment.

The New board in the Analogue means the control can read very accurately the voltage at the battery meaning we can confidently lower the cut off point to 10.5V. with out damaging the battery. Also the feedback we get suggest cleaners on the ground want the cut off lower than 11v it is currently.


As for that elusive point where a battery recharging it will vary system to system and battery to battery.

Ian

[traps7]

better to have a separate split charge relay so if the water controller breaks down/wears out and needs replacing you do not need to pay extra for one with relay charger built in.

Those controllers with the charge built in were no good IMO because you had to manually select and deselect it after every journey or every time you start the van. Seperate split charge relays are automatic.