Thats fine Paul, but to be honest - no not all trying to sell the software, I have too much on with my own business at the moment, Im sorry genuinely sorry as I was out of order - and as my previous post said, I feel like a complete idiot, not masquerading anything. I dont think I have posted on here about software for a very very long time, If something comes up about telesales, I will try and advise on that - but thats all really. Ive been on ebay advertising, thats gone very well for my business. Also a little bit of time issues get mixed up here Ive been a member I think for probably over four years. Everybody asking then about running a business on a mobile. So some of the new people have probably not seen those older days....... somebody made a comment that has only been a member since April last year. Ive left the software threads alone for a long time now - as I dont want to be accused of being a stalker. Its a bit of a no win situation, If I respond to a software ask, I will get accused of stalking, if I dont nobody will know. Do you see what I mean?