[dave.e]

hi guys dose anybody use just the trolley for cleaning and if so how do you get on with it compared to a van mount.

my lad will be using one when he leaves school in may this year and i wondered how much better they are than the van mount and if its cheaper to go that way instead of all the crap with the winter and heating the ruddy van all the time.

just thinking outside the box on this one because we would not need vans we could use a car which is cheaper to run and nothing to freeze up your input would be appreciated
many thanks Dave

[shina]

I use a trolley and think the same as you. I would like a van mount but really dont need that expense. I also do trad so the best of both worlds.
I carry on average 6 25ltr containers in an astra estate and find this is fine for me.

[dave.e]

I use a trolley and think the same as you. I would like a van mount but really dont need that expense. I also do trad so the best of both worlds.
I carry on average 6 25ltr containers in an astra estate and find this is fine for me.

thanks for the reply mate i have been using a van mount for around 7 years but with the rising cost of everything its doing my head spending more for diesel/van insurance/heating van in the winter so was trying to see if things would work out better by using a trolley and car.

 forgot to add my accountant as used all my van benefit up in the first year so still paying for that for another 2 ruddy years

[PURER CLEAN]

i use a trolley m8, works well. wouldnt bother with a van mount now. all my gear is kept in my shed (nice & warm) 10/15mins in the morn & im ready to roll 

[dave.e]

i use a trolley m8, works well. wouldnt bother with a van mount now. all my gear is kept in my shed (nice & warm) 10/15mins in the morn & im ready to roll 

Hi bud how long have you been using the trolley for and do you think it is possibly to earn about £150.00 a day with it on lets say 3 beds

[dazmond]

looking back at my year with a trolley I WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO IT NOW!!!it stays in the van hooked up to my tank.its so easy to turn a trolley into a van mount.for me its easier and quicker than humping barrels about and filling the bloody things up every night!!

i pull up,turn pump on,grab pole and pull hose to my furthest point and start cleaning.wonderful!!!

[dave.e]

looking back at my year with a trolley I WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO IT NOW!!!it stays in the van hooked up to my tank.its so easy to turn a trolley into a van mount.for me its easier and quicker than humping barrels about and filling the bloody things up every night!!

i pull up,turn pump on,grab pole and pull hose to my furthest point and start cleaning.wonderful!!!

hi dazmond do you take all your stuff out on a cold night

[dazmond]

no dave i leave the trolley in the van most nights as im too lazy to take it out.i take reel in to make room for my oil filled radiator and turn on if its below freezing.

it costs me around £1-50 a night with rad on full blast.no scraping windscreen,van nice and toasty and a days work done.

the trolley will eventually do your back in IMO if your humping barrels about and pushing trolley.

[dave.e]

no dave i leave the trolley in the van most nights as im too lazy to take it out.i take reel in to make room for my oil filled radiator and turn on if its below freezing.

it costs me around £1-50 a night with rad on full blast.no scraping windscreen,van nice and toasty and a days work done.

the trolley will eventually do your back in IMO if your humping barrels about and pushing trolley.

thanks for your input mate i think i have got a lot of thinking to do
Dave

[dazmond]

ill be getting a car soon as well so my van will be just used for work.but if my vans off the road for a while i could always fill a few barrels and go off in the car with the trolley and do a bit of work if need be but i wouldnt like to do it all the time as trolleys waste too much time!

having the flexibility is good though!!


best wishes



dazmond

[PURER CLEAN]

i use a trolley m8, works well. wouldnt bother with a van mount now. all my gear is kept in my shed (nice & warm) 10/15mins in the morn & im ready to roll 

Hi bud how long have you been using the trolley for and do you think it is possibly to earn about £150.00 a day with it on lets say 3 beds

about a year give or take. you could earn that not a problem mate. i can do £100 in a morning & thats with a not so good back. so some one in good health i think could do a round the £250 mark.im not quick by anymeans m8, & i would never claim to be.

[PURER CLEAN]

looking back at my year with a trolley I WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO IT NOW!!!it stays in the van hooked up to my tank.its so easy to turn a trolley into a van mount.for me its easier and quicker than humping barrels about and filling the bloody things up every night!!

i pull up,turn pump on,grab pole and pull hose to my furthest point and start cleaning.wonderful!!!

i agree with most of that fore sure m8. but i dont worry about heating my van mounted nor do i hump barrels about. ive got a transfer pump  40lts a min do take long & im gone 

[Jackal]

looking back at my year with a trolley I WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO IT NOW!!!it stays in the van hooked up to my tank.its so easy to turn a trolley into a van mount.for me its easier and quicker than humping barrels about and filling the bloody things up every night!!

i pull up,turn pump on,grab pole and pull hose to my furthest point and start cleaning.wonderful!!!

is this how you work then with trolley pipe in tank all the time or you got seperate van mount set up aswell

[Frankybadboy]

but daz you did make a mistake buying a 50ltr trolley which was a bad decesion from the start with

[dazmond]

jackal trolley pipes in my tank at all times!it is a van mount!!

[Jackal]

yeh no its still van mount but thought you had seperate pump and battery aswell on tank

[dai]

I started with a DIY trolley years ago and have stuck with it, My son now helps me 3 days a week and he has one too. I use a trailer with a ramp and it's as quick as any van mount. I don't have to fill mine, just change containers. I'm pushing 70 now but can still manage to push the trolley with 2 x25ltr containers up the ramp.
We have enough containers so that my Mrs can fill the ones today that I will use tomorrow. I get home, chuck out the empties and fill up with full contaners for the next day.
Having 30 meters on a hose reel mounted to the trolley means I don't have to take the trolley round the backs, we don't have the parking issues which with constantly moving the van Either.
Most of my work is really compact and this system works for me. I could fit a tank on the trailer if I wanted, but I'm happy as I am. Each to his own, it's horses for courses. 14 containers brings in about £250 between us, but I like to finish early these days.

[AuRavelling79]

I must be the only one on this forum who has used a trolley out of a car; used a reel from a car; used a van; used a backpack as an add on and used a trailer system.

When I started I knew no better and had little spare dosh and bought a trolley from Peter Fogwill and used 8 containers in my estate car. It worked.

Then I bought my van and put a 400L in it. Dropped the trolley and added a backpack.sacktruck combo for going through houses.

As a single operator for me that is the best combination a van plus 400L for 98% of my work and a backpack plus a 25L drum for the rare difficult to park jobby.

When I went two man I just had enough payload to keep the above but I quickly added a trailer with a 200L tank which is where I am at now. It has got me into two man working - is useful for parking issues - seperating can be useful too.

But on a dry day in winter (9am til 4pm) we use up all the water and my van is at its limit as is the trailer (maybe I could put a 25L barrel on board each but that would be it.)

My man Dan has been with me 5 months and is speeding up and getting the hang of it - I can see us using the 600/650L by 3pm this spring.

Weighing it up depends on:-

How many people/vehicles in the family
Have you electricity to run to your vehicle
How flush are you

If all things are equal and starting now then as single owner operator with my wife/teenager helping part time I would go for a 2002/2006 Peugeot Expert (Scudo/Dispatch) 3 seater with a 900kg payload and a HDi engine. It would have a 500L tank in the back and a backpack bungee wrapped on a sacktruck with a spare 25L drum.

2 reels and pumps. A small ladder for gates and trad gear.

2 of you full time? Then two vans or a 3 seat van with a 1000kg minimum payload and 2 pumps and reels,

[lee_dewing]

I have a freedom trolley and use ave 7-8 barrels a day in escort van (fan-jets).

I ave £120 a day but could do better, due to getting my round compact and priceing better.

I still not got hose reel which i think is the missing link on bigger properties and also locked gates a hose reel would save time and leave trolley near van instead of dragging around.

A van mount would be good but my setup is at parents parking is sometimes an issue so load on barrels yes can be a pain loading on barrels.

But until i'm not living in flat and have property with off street parking i'l stay as am.
Yes trollies are not perfect but they can be converted to van mount as daz has done and in the case of someone writing off your van, they can be transfered and be good to go "PDQ"

and also the extra benefit of bringing trolley out of the cold over night is good also.

Lee

[CLEANCARE WC]

looking back at my year with a trolley I WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO IT NOW!!!it stays in the van hooked up to my tank.its so easy to turn a trolley into a van mount.for me its easier and quicker than humping barrels about and filling the bloody things up every night!!

i pull up,turn pump on,grab pole and pull hose to my furthest point and start cleaning.wonderful!!!

Daz do you not think you should sell your trolley (while its still shiny & newish and worth something) & buy a pump and flo controller and still have change? just a thought.