[Catherine10]

Op may I just ask - initially in hindsight when you took him on did he display drunken behaviour at any time, were there any warning signs that he may be like this, or was it one off behaviour?

[John F]

Sacking him...well ok...he did wrong so maybe your within your rights to do it,but couldn't you have stopped him from driving without it getting out of hand.I mean he now has no job and a big fine and disqualification,maybe you were right but surely you could have stopped him driving?

But for how long though?

Who knows...he didn't try did he....result is a bloke out of work and in trouble.Yes of course he shouldn't be drinking whilst driving,surely we can all agree on that one,but calling the old bill without trying to stop him is out of order in my book....

He'd already driven to woody1's. I know what you're saying but you can't hang around all day stopping someone from driving, either. Take his keys- yes- but what if he's gets funny or gets a spare set?
People have to take some responsibility for their own actions.

thats how i see it. it would be an easier world to live in if people took responsibility for their own actions. wouldnt have so many bleaters and spongers then.

[woody1]

I new he liked a beer or two after work but not like that

[John F]

Op may I just ask - initially in hindsight when you took him on did he display drunken behaviour at any time, were there any warning signs that he may be like this, or was it one off behaviour?

i think the red nose and the half bottle sticking out of his trouser pocket, slurred speech and last nights kebab on his shirt front were a dead give away.

[Catherine10]

How long was he with you Woody?

[dazmond]

sounds like a real alcoholic to me.hopefully with no job,licence and money he ll seek help and sober up.the thing is i used to be just the same.been sober years now and still help drunks out who want to recover.hope he s hit rock bottom.

you did the right thing woody.


best wishes to all


dazmond(recovered alcoholic)

[davids3511]

his kids can do what he wants

Interesting concept, does it stretch to abusing them too? His kids and all that.

[david watts]

his kids can do what he wants

Interesting concept, does it stretch to abusing them too? His kids and all that.

dont ask me? im a tool or an idiot maybe both

[stuart mc]

you are unforgiving mob, he has turned up once way over the limit. straight after new years celebrations, he has probably been on a wee bender that ended late last night, he then stupidly drove to work, and all of a sudden he is an alkie, kid abuser. he made a mistake once, I can understand him getting sacked and phoning the old bill, I would have did neither.

[Jackal]

you are unforgiving mob, he has turned up once way over the limit. straight after new years celebrations, he has probably been on a wee bender that ended late last night, he then stupidly drove to work, and all of a sudden he is an alkie, kid abuser. he made a mistake once, I can understand him getting sacked and phoning the old bill, I would have did neither.

agree with you stu,

i bet everyone reading this topic has drove to work the morning after having a few beers nite before i no i have,to me its different if he driving home from the pub that deserves you getting caught by the old bill,

and as for him being an alco, christ he went out on bank holiday give him a break

[gary999]

Well of course i would ferking feel agrieved at someone  mowing down my family...but he never did he?
He could have possibly been stopped without getting the bloke into further trouble....yes ok if he known to be a consistant drink driver then maybe fair do's but he wouldn't have employed him if he had known that surely...all i am saying is he should have got hold of the bloke first and warned him before informing the old bill.....thats the way i would have done it....

 even if you intervened on this occasion doesnt mean it hasnt happened on many occasions before and from that many times after your intervention and just because
somebody hasnt been caught as a drink driver ddoesnt mean they havent
done it on many occasions and got away with it and only luck has stopped
them killing somebody.

he did the right thing...you carry on living of the world of the playground
worrying about grassing some one up.i imagine the more reasonable
minded the rest of us will stick to the real world

[Catherine10]

Thats why I was asking Woody his normal behaviour

[LT carpet cleaning]

you are unforgiving mob, he has turned up once way over the limit. straight after new years celebrations, he has probably been on a wee bender that ended late last night, he then stupidly drove to work, and all of a sudden he is an alkie, kid abuser. he made a mistake once, I can understand him getting sacked and phoning the old bill, I would have did neither.

agree with you stu,

i bet everyone reading this topic has drove to work the morning after having a few beers nite before i no i have,to me its different if he driving home from the pub that deserves you getting caught by the old bill,

and as for him being an alco, christ he went out on bank holiday give him a break

Nope never driven the morning after a heavy one. We arent all as irresponsible as you seem to be.

[gary999]

you are unforgiving mob, he has turned up once way over the limit. straight after new years celebrations, he has probably been on a wee bender that ended late last night, he then stupidly drove to work, and all of a sudden he is an alkie, kid abuser. he made a mistake once, I can understand him getting sacked and phoning the old bill, I would have did neither.

agree with you stu,

i bet everyone reading this topic has drove to work the morning after having a few beers nite before i no i have,to me its different if he driving home from the pub that deserves you getting caught by the old bill,

and as for him being an alco, christ he went out on bank holiday give him a break

nope! i lost a family member years ago to some one who drove home
from a party drunk,apparently he hadnt done it before :

it only takes one stupid sensless decision to drive home drunk
on one occasion to have someone else pay the price for your
stupidity.

maybe if you have had to deal with the fall out from his decision
maybe you wouldnt be so sympathetic.


i wouldnt wish it on anybody!

[Nameless Drudge]

Its no surprise to hear the mob baying for blood,revealing a lack of empathy and compassion.

The chap has been dehumanised and hung drawn and quartered by the "do gooders",some of whom will claim to be religious.

Reminds me of the devout christians that are absolutely gutted to arrive in heaven and find everybody else there.

[dazmond]

to be 4 times over the limit IN THE MORNING he must of drank a hell of a lot of alcohol!!!

[AC Window Cleaning]

Op did the right thing imo.
You cant have people stinking of ale at your customers houses-its unacceptable,end of.
DD 4 times over AM?? thats not somebody on a morning after,if it is hes had a couple of liveners before setting off.

[Catherine10]

Woody can you reply how long he was with you?

[david watts]

to be 4 times over the limit IN THE MORNING he must of drank a hell of a lot of alcohol!!!

dont know about that not had much last two years
untill last fri still the same though knew it wasnt good for me still had eight
you cant help yourself wont bother again till next xmas still blokes got to buy bread for the kids now we have to help him

[Perfect Windows]

he has probably been on a wee bender that ended late last night, he then stupidly drove to work

i bet everyone reading this topic has drove to work the morning after having a few beers nite before i no i have

Four times over the limit the morning after?  You really are having a laugh.

If you're drinking two pints an hour, it takes about ten or twelve pints to get to four times the limit immediately after you stop drinking.  To be that far over the limit after eight hours kip you'd be drinking about sixteen or eighteen pints.

We're not talking about someone mistakenly finding themselves just over the limit first thing in the morning here.  Four times over the limit is criminally smashed to be behind the wheel.



As an aside, I do love how the word "grass" comes up on this forum so often, as though you feel you're all a bunch of noble underworld characters protecting your honourable criminal mates.

Vin