[Simon Gerrard]

Low moisture is fine for maintenance, but honestly whats the problem with flushing the fibres total clean with lots of lovely water especially when drying times are 1-2 hours

What Paul means is why F about doing half a job when if you had the right equipment you could do a GREAT job.

[K.O. Glanville]

Low moisture is fine for maintenance, but honestly whats the problem with flushing the fibres total clean with lots of lovely water especially when drying times are 1-2 hours

What Paul means is why F about doing half a job when if you had the right equipment you could do a GREAT job.

What needs to be understood is that:

1:   Many (most) carpet cleaners don't have or can't afford the "right equipment".

2:   Many jobs in security conscious buildings, especially high-rise ones, do not have the facilities       available to use a truck mount.

3:   Portables, along with air movers and fans to dry the premises, as well as a lack of air conditioning plus   sealed windows, can make for a very time consuming, and costly, job.

4:   Many firms will not pay the money to accommodate the above, (granted, there are some that may, for a while), whereas they will happily pay for an "appearance clean" that can maintain their premises in a visually clean environment for their staff and clients, along with daily maintenance of their premises by contract cleaners.

5:   Following on with the GFC, I have noticed a big swing to VLM or Encap; cleaning to save money.

       To make more profit is first and foremost in the mindset of many business people, carpet cleaners     included, has anyone ever noticed that when a new manager takes over a business, the first thing to get the chop is the cleaner.??  Make an impression, "look how much money I've just saved the company by getting a CHEAPER cleaner."


Maybe it's different where I come from, in a little town in the tropics.


Take care all.

Shorty.

[PaulKing]

There's always a way to use a truckmount, if you have one, in the same way there always a reason to make the excuse to use a portable machine. I know that 300 sq meters in three hours on my own this morning makes the truckmount the way to go for me.

As for buying kit it's either you of the equipment doing the bulk of the work, personally I'd rather the tm had the wear and tear than me.

[K.O. Glanville]

There's always a way to use a truckmount, if you have one, in the same way there always a reason to make the excuse to use a portable machine. I know that 300 sq meters in three hours on my own this morning makes the truckmount the way to go for me.

As for buying kit it's either you of the equipment doing the bulk of the work, personally I'd rather the tm had the wear and tear than me.

Sorry to disagree Paul, but I have a thirteen storey building where there are no windows that can be opened, the fire escape is alarmed and hoses cannot be put up the stairwell.

There are only two stairwells, both are emergency exits and cannot even be used by people going from one level to the next as an alarm sounds whenever a door is opened.

In the event of an emergency, these stairwells must be kept free of any equipment.

In this building, a truck-mount is out of the question, there are other high rise buildings where I can, and do, use the t/m.

I have a truck-mount bolted in my van, I also have portables, but the encap; process, in this instance, works better than the other ways.

There are also shopping malls that we clean where we are not able to use a t/m, given the right conditions the porty; is used for flushing, sometimes followed up with a bonnet to dry.

One must assess the situation including any workplace health and safety issues when taking into account how the carpet will be cleaned.

One size does not fit all sort of thing.

Great post and good to see other sides of the stories.

Shorty.

[Simon Gerrard]

I agree with Paul, although we have LM and VLM facilities always on the van we rarely, if ever use them, not because there aren't the opportunities, but because we don't believe in cutting corners and that is what you do when you choose, or have no other choice because you dont have any other equipment, than to use a lesser system when you could have given your customer the best.

Simon

[PaulKing]

If you have jobs with accesss like that, yes I see our point. And for maintaining it encapmcertainly is good, But I just don't seam to come across many like that.

[jasonl]

Low moisture is fine for maintenance, but honestly whats the problem with flushing the fibres total clean with lots of lovely water especially when drying times are 1-2 hours

What Paul means is why F about doing half a job when if you had the right equipment you could do a GREAT job.

TM=too big an investment for most , who cannot/will not get finance .

Even the very cheapest used van and TM capable  of being usable is 5k

Brand new LM 2k


Of course the TM will do the job better/faster , but it is simply not feasible for many.

[wynne jones]

If you can't afford a TM stick to a portable.

Most people though choose to spend the money on a new van or a holiday or something like that. They don't see the value in a TM.

[mark shannon]

Must admit love my TM, but have been stunned by encap results on commercial so much so I've purchased an ex-demo Cimex from Jamie.

[Steve Fortt]

Hi Jason

Please could i have a copy of your guide.

Many thanks
Steve

Fortt cleaning services