[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Hi just a question on prestesting as i only use Dry Fusion which is safe on all fibres i don't need to pretest areas for Colour Fast ETC.

What i want to know is how you guy's test areas and the best way of doing it also if you do get colour run then do you say you can't do it or do you try another chemical???

Cheers Phil.

[markpowell]

Do a Blue test first, this will tell you in a couple of minuites what water will do in the last hour of drying time. If you dont get a transfer on the towel, then you can wet clean and rinse.
If you do get a transfer then do the red test, acid rinse mixed with water in a sprayer. Choose a different area of carpet spray and use clean towel and apply pressure for few mins. If you dont get a transfer you can wet clean but must use acid rinse in tank. If you do get a transfer then the carpet is dry clean or LM only.
Mark

[cleanability]

Been carpet cleaning 15years and wouldnt know how to test for colour run or shrinkage. That includes an NCCA membership course where it was never shown. And have never had a problem. Done lots of red carpets where the waste tank is red afterwards but its never been an issue. In fact got a regular customer with a red carpet I've cleaned about 5 times over the last 10yrs. Tank waste is always red but its still not been a problem, and the carpet is still a deep red colour lol.

Chris

[wynne jones]

Mark, do you test every carpet?

Very rare I do this, maybe if I need to use something strong or there's aged pee somewhere.

Rugs and upholstery? A lot more often.

Stick to MS Phil and don't think you will have a problem on 99% of carpets, but then it's knowing the 1% to test I guess.

[markpowell]

Mark, do you test every carpet?

Very rare I do this, maybe if I need to use something strong or there's aged pee somewhere.

Rugs and upholstery? A lot more often.

Stick to MS Phil and don't think you will have a problem on 99% of carpets, but then it's knowing the 1% to test I guess.

If i had say a cream carpet with a red flower then i would test, but to be honest only ever do it a handfull of times per year.
Mark

[markpowell]

Mark, do you test every carpet?

Very rare I do this, maybe if I need to use something strong or there's aged pee somewhere.

Rugs and upholstery? A lot more often.

Stick to MS Phil and don't think you will have a problem on 99% of carpets, but then it's knowing the 1% to test I guess.

Its not the PH that causes colour migration, it is the dyes are unstable, plain water will cause problems. You will never see a problem on the job the problem only occurs during the last hour of drying time.
I always test rugs without fail, had one many years ago that i ruined and wont get caught out again.
Mark

[Mike Halliday]

Do a Blue test first,

 If you do get a transfer then do the red test,  Mark

ok Mark  i''ll ask ............. whats the blue & red test?

and I've never heard before that colours run in the last hour of them drying, not doubting you but where did you get that fact?

[Neil Williams]

I'm guessing alkaline and acid tests

[Mike Halliday]

I'm guessing alkaline and acid tests

well I'm guessing you cut the throat of a Chelsea supporter and see what the blood does to the carpet then you do the same to a Liverpool supporter

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

I remember my first Prochem training course from 15 years ago.

The blue and red test then was based around MultiPro (blue) and Fibre&Fabric (red).

Must admit, the only time I test as a matter of course is reds on rugs.

[markpowell]

Do a Blue test first,

 If you do get a transfer then do the red test,  Mark

ok Mark  i''ll ask ............. whats the blue & red test?

and I've never heard before that colours run in the last hour of them drying, not doubting you but where did you get that fact?

Prochem course Mike, read the manual that many times, i know its sad.
The blue test is anything over ph 10 and the red test is FF Rinse.
The blue test simulates in a few mins what plain water will do in the last hour of drying when colour migration occurs.
Must admit the training manual is as old as me so it might not be the case mate.
Mark

[Paul Moss]

  Mark, I think we have had 2 world wars since then 

[markpowell]

 

[Steve. Taylor]

Mark i have still got the training video on betamax